From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 21 20:23:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 87F32352; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 20:23:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zim.MIT.EDU (poofydog.net [198.0.194.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2EFCA103E; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 20:23:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zim.MIT.EDU (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zim.MIT.EDU (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id rBEL0gpW006622; Sat, 14 Dec 2013 13:00:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from das@localhost) by zim.MIT.EDU (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id rBEL0fvY006621; Sat, 14 Dec 2013 13:00:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 13:00:41 -0800 From: David Schultz To: Eitan Adler Subject: Re: c99 project Message-ID: <20131214210041.GA5343@zim.MIT.EDU> References: <20130205103509.GB28045@saturn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , "freebsd-doc@freebsd.org" , FreeBSD Standards , Giorgos Keramidas X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 20:23:50 -0000 On Sun, Dec 08, 2013, Eitan Adler wrote: > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 5:35 AM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > On 2013-02-04 21:48, Eitan Adler wrote: > >> Is the following page still useful? > >> Would there be any objection to me removing it? > >> > >> http://www.freebsd.org/projects/c99/index.html > > > > I think this is useful until we have full C99 support in at least one > > compiler toolchain. To the best of my knowledge this is not entirely > > true for either GCC or LLVM. > > > > So we should keep the page alive, until the project is done or canceled. > > Reviving an old thread here: > > The C99 compliance page was last updated in 2011 and it currently > shows a large amount of outdated information. > > I see this page being used in many discussion forums, on IRC, etc. to > show FreeBSD in a negative light. We need to either (A) move this to > the wiki (b) update it on a routine basis or (c) delete it. > > Can I please have a volunteer go through the page and tell me what to > change? I am more than happy to act as the 'doc proxy' but someone > needs to commit to monitoring changes. I chipped in a bit to maintain it after mike@ stepped down, but I haven't had time lately. It needs to be updated for C11, and the project is bigger than just writing down the state of the world. You need to figure out the requirements, carry out discussions, and work with people to get things done. If someone wants to take it over, I support that. Otherwise, it's probably safe to delete. At this point, the existing content doesn't have much value: someone needs to review the whole thing to figure out what is still missing.