From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 28 05:53:29 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E997E15D8FC7 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 05:53:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B83B8B1E3 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 05:53:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id C863C61F83; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 12:53:12 +0700 (+07) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:received:received :received; s=selector1; t=1561701192; x=1563515593; bh=geHhaKo99 JUR8ySE4WxxRiryUdi9k+kDuptV9mVggfw=; b=ApdhPq2pNDtTcvyahTRj/8ElO CSxD6GyhrI/134t9tgS9vmi6P89BVJUHl6hNFsumxioAhPnrgbiIruEmhOSv0R1D g0+OjRraIKGE6vJu3LM1qbgimTun0/57Nj9U3m53SQ6Z3wFrjIFhg1o8VUIzkfk8 WhlmUp7XyWggRNR2xU= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id OQzs4VS6krE5; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 12:53:12 +0700 (+07) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D17861F82; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 12:53:12 +0700 (+07) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id x5S5rAZ9018241; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 12:53:10 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier To: Polytropon Cc: ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I've got a major question... In-Reply-To: <20190628072716.7efaf909.freebsd@edvax.de> (message from Polytropon on Fri, 28 Jun 2019 07:27:16 +0200) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 12:53:08 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 2B83B8B1E3 X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cs.ait.ac.th header.s=selector1 header.b=ApdhPq2p; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=cs.ait.ac.th; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th designates 192.41.170.16 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.85 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cs.ait.ac.th:s=selector1]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(0.00)[cs.ait.ac.th.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.11.2]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-3.17)[ip: (-8.38), ipnet: 192.41.170.0/24(-4.19), asn: 4767(-3.35), country: TH(0.09)]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail.cs.ait.ac.th]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cs.ait.ac.th:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[cs.ait.ac.th,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[16.170.41.192.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.11.2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.970,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:4767, ipnet:192.41.170.0/24, country:TH]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; RBL_COMPOSITE_RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED_DWL_DNSWL_MED(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 05:53:29 -0000 Polytropon writes: > The "always online & for rent" But hey, if you buy your software, you mat also decide that the one you bought 10 years ago is still plenty enough for what you do and you don't need to buy upgrades. The very few times I need to launch Word, it is a version of 2003, bought in 2003, never paid anything since. What puzzle me even more is people accepting to buy their cars through leasing: you pay every month, for 3 years, and at the end of the 3 years period, you have... nothing. While it may make sense for a business (fix cost every month, if the business stop its business, it has no car left, but a dead business needs no car), it makes no sense for individuals. And it makes even less sens for something like software that will not stop working or loose its functionalities with time. It's sounds like you are offering to lease me a hammer and the only real reason is that you will charge more at the end and I will get a hammer with a different colour handle each year. Olivier --