From owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 18 16:48:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B8F99A; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 16:48:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lifanov@mail.lifanov.com) Received: from mail.lifanov.com (mail.lifanov.com [206.125.175.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31D3176E; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 16:48:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.1.3.5] (cnet520-windstream.mcclatchyinteractive.com [166.108.16.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.lifanov.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AC27519F63E; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 16:48:22 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <51C08F55.20402@mail.lifanov.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 12:48:21 -0400 From: Nikolai Lifanov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130531 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tijl Coosemans Subject: Re: svn commit: r251886 - in head: contrib/apr contrib/apr-util contrib/serf contrib/sqlite3 contrib/subversion share/mk usr.bin usr.bin/svn usr.bin/svn/lib usr.bin/svn/lib/libapr usr.bin/svn/lib/libap... References: <201306180253.r5I2rj45053959@svn.freebsd.org> <51C08D7E.2000605@coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: <51C08D7E.2000605@coosemans.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, Peter Wemm X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 16:48:23 -0000 On 06/18/13 12:40, Tijl Coosemans wrote: > On 2013-06-18 04:53, Peter Wemm wrote: >> Author: peter >> Date: Tue Jun 18 02:53:45 2013 >> New Revision: 251886 >> URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/251886 >> >> Log: >> Introduce svnlite so that we can check out our source code again. >> >> This is actually a fully functional build except: >> * All internal shared libraries are static linked to make sure there >> is no interference with ports (and to reduce build time). >> * It does not have the python/perl/etc plugin or API support. >> * By default, it installs as "svnlite" rather than "svn". >> * If WITH_SVN added in make.conf, you get "svn". >> * If WITHOUT_SVNLITE is in make.conf, this is completely disabled. >> >> To be absolutely clear, this is not intended for any use other than >> checking out freebsd source and committing, like we once did with cvs. >> >> It should be usable for small scale local repositories that don't >> need the python/perl plugin architecture. > > This ties the repo to the oldest supported release, meaning that years > from now we won't be able to use some new subversion feature because > an old FreeBSD release doesn't support it. > > I don't find it unreasonable to ask developers to install the port. > And for users it seems all they need is something like portsnap for base. > Portsnap already distributes ports svn so it shouldn't be too hard to > adapt it for base. And the extra layer it adds is very convenient. Apart > from a bigger than usual update maybe, portsnap users never even noticed > it was switched from cvs to svn at some point. > I think the scope of this is for developers, to enable viewing repository history, committing, etc. Users are able to keep a bare (no metadata) tree up-to-date with net/svnup. But wasn't the original cvs retirement plan to import net/svnup into base? What is the motivation behind the import of semi-full subversion? It didn't replace former cvs functionality, since development didn't happen in cvs repositories for a while. - Nikolai Lifanov