From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Sep 24 14:18:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17500 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:18:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp03.primenet.com (smtp03.primenet.com [206.165.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17417 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:18:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr06.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp03.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22670; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:17:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr06.primenet.com(206.165.6.206) via SMTP by smtp03.primenet.com, id smtpd022644; Thu Sep 24 14:17:53 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr06.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA17367; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:17:46 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199809242117.OAA17367@usr06.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Booting from NT ? To: cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us (Chris Dillon) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:17:46 +0000 (GMT) Cc: drussell@saturn-tech.com, tlambert@primenet.com, jflowers@ezo.net, luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Chris Dillon" at Sep 24, 98 01:53:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > You can BOOT FreeBSD (via NTLDR) off an NTFS parition. FreeBSD > > > > can't read the NTFS filesystem, of course (yet!), but you can > > > > boot. I don't think > > .. > > > Actually, there is a R/O NTFS module for FreeBSD. See the list > > > archives. > > > > Nifty! Sometime I MUST start a page of "Neat things for FreeBSD that you > > probably never new existed" for all these things I keep discovering! > > It would be ultra-nifty if one could write to NTFS partitions, and even > create/format them. I could see possiblities of using this on a PicoBSD > floppy to rebuild dead NT workstations, much like what I'm going to try > to do for Win95 on FAT16 (I'll consider FAT32 as nonexistent.. it > sucks). :-) We write FS images at Whistle, after a net-boot. For an image, it's not really relevent what the format of the thing is. FreeBSD's VFS would need to change to be able to properly support a journalling filesystem. More specifically, the VOP_ABORTOP would need to become real, and the cookie portion of VOP_READDIR would have to go away, among other more minor tweaks. It's no coincidence that Margo's LFS code never worked quite right on FreeBSD, since a log structured FS is very similar to a JFS in its needs for transaction control. The only saving grace here is that while it would be very hard to wedge a writable NTFS into an unmodified FreeBSD VFS, it would be almost impossible to wedge it into an unmodified Linux VFS (their NTFS implementation is read-only, as well). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message