From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Nov 12 02:50:57 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7ED0112E349 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2018 02:50:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deischen@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.netplex.net (mail.netplex.net [204.213.176.9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.netplex.net", Issuer "RapidSSL RSA CA 2018" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D8467A480; Mon, 12 Nov 2018 02:50:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deischen@freebsd.org) Received: from [10.0.0.54] (ip-414b102e.ct.fixed.ntplx.com [65.75.16.46]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.netplex.net (8.15.1/8.15.1/NETPLEX) with ESMTPSA id wAC2nhms038539 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 11 Nov 2018 21:49:43 -0500 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS and Clam AntiVirus (mail.netplex.net) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mail.netplex.net [204.213.176.9]); Sun, 11 Nov 2018 21:49:43 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Graphics open-source-friendliness, AMD Ryzen vs. Intel From: Daniel Eischen X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (16B92) In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 21:49:43 -0500 Cc: johalun0@gmail.com, Allan Jude , freebsd-current Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <188F89D2-16A1-4483-AD38-CD346C1BBE0D.1@aspmx1.migadu.com> <1541958847.1699.1@smtp.migadu.com> To: Johannes Dieterich X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 1D8467A480 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-102.60 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ALLOW_DOMAIN_WHITELIST(-100.00)[freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; R_SPF_SOFTFAIL(0.00)[~all]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx66.freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.974,0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6062, ipnet:204.213.176.0/20, country:US]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 02:50:57 -0000 >> On Nov 11, 2018, at 9:03 PM, Johannes Dieterich = wrote: >>=20 >> On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 4:48 PM Johannes Lundberg wr= ote: >>=20 >> I have an AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (with Vega graphics) and it panics all the ti= me >> with references to various memory access errors (use after free among >> other). >>=20 >> Ubuntu is also unstable on this machine but Windows 10 works well after a= >> windows update (I had to reinstall the previous motherboard with older cp= u >> to be able to run Windows update without crash...) >>=20 >> =46rom my experience, stay away from this CPU. > To put this a little into perspective: the R3 2200G is part of the > most recent AMD APU generation and contains the most recent Vega > graphics IP ("Vega 8"). It was officially released only in February of > this year. The most recent DRM in ports is 4.16, which itself was > released only in April. Problems with the 2200G on "older" Linux > releases are unfortunately well known. However, kernel 4.18 with > latest firmwares and BIOSs is documented to be stable on this platform > (see phoronix, Ubuntu 18.10 "benchmark"). >=20 > Johannes Even the 2400G (Ryzen 5) released around the same time as the 2200G is extre= mely stable for me (13-current), except for DRM (for which I have to use the= VESA radeonkms driver as the amdgpu doesn't yet seem to support the 2400G g= raphics). I've done several buildworlds and more than a few poudriere runs b= uilding 1100+ ports, it never seems to break a sweat, the CPU and heat sink a= re still cool to the touch. -- DE=