From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Apr 13 09:42:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA13387 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 09:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com (et-gw-fr1.etinc.com [204.141.244.98]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13370; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 09:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dbws.etinc.com (db@dbws.etinc.com [204.141.95.130]) by etinc.com (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA22352; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 12:49:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970413124059.006cbdfc@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 12:41:04 -0400 To: dyson@freebsd.org From: dennis Subject: Re: Commercial vendors registry Cc: dyson@freebsd.org, terry@lambert.org, scrappy@hub.org, pgiffuni@fps.biblos.unal.edu.co, hackers@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 06:47 PM 4/12/97 -0500, John S. Dyson wrote: >> >> >Those who are making money with FreeBSD/Linux/whatever at least have the >> >power to get those things done. The developers of FreeBSD donate their >> >time, others who make use of it are welcome to improve FreeBSD by donating >> >other things :-). >> >> Thats fine, but then you should resign yourselves to having a cult OS and >> not whimper >> about "commercial registries", as if thats going to make a difference. >> >The whimpering that has been happening hasn't been from me. I am saying >that if someone wants something, begging won't fix the problem. The >tools exist to fix the problem, and all it takes is deciding to do the >things to make things happen. One can contribute money, one can >contribute time, or maybe even both in order to get the results that >one wants. > >Many of the things that I do have been supported by commercial need. Directly >or indirectly there is often compensation for my time (like there is for >others.) When I am not doing something for hire, I work on various parts >of the infrastructure that need to be worked on. Others often do that also. > >So, my suggestion is that if a change from the current course is wanted, and >no-one is willing to donate the time for free, those that want the change >can do it, or fund (or otherwise enable) the change. Its really not feasible, unfortunately. The only way to do it is become a BSDI, which is a serious step. Or, take a snapshot and maintain it as...say, a router O/S, like OpenBSD has done. Dennis