From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 18:55:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9429D1065698 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:55:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein-listmail@stillbilde.net) Received: from mail.stillbilde.net (d80.iso100.no [81.175.61.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C50E88FC26 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:55:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.4.2] (unknown [192.168.4.2]) (Authenticated sender: svein) by mail.stillbilde.net (Familien Skogens mail) with ESMTPSA id 9D89C22; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:55:56 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4AD61EB8.4020506@stillbilde.net> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:55:52 +0200 From: "Svein Skogen (listmail account)" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freddie Cash References: <20091014151026.699a5765@ernst.jennejohn.org> <18175.200.249.56.17.1255528438.squirrel@squirrel.sv4.hmnoc.net> <86vdiix775.fsf@ds4.des.no> <26594.200.249.56.17.1255540574.squirrel@squirrel.sv4.hmnoc.net> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buffers not syncing correctly during shutdown X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:55:55 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Freddie Cash wrote: > I believe the default was switched at some point, though, so that the S= afely > Remove isn't always needed. I believe this was changed around SP2 for XP, and Vista has always had quick-removal for the devices it undestands to be external (eSATA still gets detected as non-hotswappable unless you registry-magic-it). However, this doesn't protect against pebcak-yanking the device you have documents open from. It really doesn't. Just trust me, I've tried. ;) Maybe this is something FreeBSD should consider? Maybe a hack in "mount" to allow the mount-option "is-removable", that tells the OS "don't bother write-cache this" and "cleanse the cache when user yanks hardware"= ? //Svein - -- - --------+-------------------+------------------------------- /"\ |Svein Skogen | svein@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg =C3=98stli 9 | PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X |2020 Skedsmokorset | svein@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | svein@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listmail@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +-------------------+------------------------------- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |svein@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle: SS16503-RIPE - --------+-------------------+------------------------------- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mobile@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. - ------------------------------------------------------------ Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ - ------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkrWHrgACgkQODUnwSLUlKTUUACgiUcE2LpKOq/xqvRpd+/IbC8+ wOYAn1F3oH8akMqBj2cXu1c6xetEXyQ9 =3DZF4S -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----