From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 23:06:00 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704B6CADCB2 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 23:06:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x244.google.com (mail-wm0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 089891FC0 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 23:06:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x244.google.com with SMTP id l2so7348978wml.2 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:05:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7BRE+b2aXvrvVrovn1xBQdqEiIoTefZSTGHaAEPmgp8=; b=CzsIS+Y+hiGa8XniUQ5ebaEZ1tBbl3yM7rWruDq+9zTxD5w6LCDNVrat3Qg5NrSt6l 0EATOd1moVojuG/97UhxQOBkWM7zw35BjW6U+gYA3KL1EwFZodGnnTxRBKMp/V9By0Jd xCw4xHEAH3BIc5dF3SSrDYJInSRfCFB1zpJd94bkt6Z3FUkVhcoW0hPQVAxl7F6ehFaB 3RiGtOw5KQEAn9/4dRQXWZNxfHrqO/NQybmkHIhpI1gywb6RCXd0hvPbZ+1fpxR+q0kF e32/8vCZjBXCuI+sODGn7VgKlj0CYKk91wS8KYincOw8ZJjfX0FaJhMz7k4tjEhj9QQb zOIA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7BRE+b2aXvrvVrovn1xBQdqEiIoTefZSTGHaAEPmgp8=; b=Pdu2bGYAd/06YxtNzTvB5NCQhDjud2oIAN43olKcjLFbSXuIG9HhajNvBepXSY2TKg +MS92IwoQ4wa4TrXyEVRf50LSZ7334RK3N3xohhYwJ2xe3OV5UDE6ThPzhU6FVeWWLlH qiDihWZYxEPzIr3EvE09pjxWtr+ZLSeoOj7g1BG6ZKx5WqZlRZiZmHguQ4K0ax8SzpPY /uDokNTmhxBnJU7vDzZce4Wk/6V3cOoBrZW0t0ICps/1+Ht2qe/LSKIbZ+Dkzd4R9mAK ExTUGa10RVoNDK8E86pLfkKHgQI7gFe7rLvoRiWT0G0PjFWtLZpodsonBx17jeZ0MvHq 5mxw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKgCuLJcFAxcuT6xbvo7h9vfXJGsR6cyd6s4xAhQBx0uWy1LwOZPzSZszSMvKekGg== X-Received: by 10.223.138.220 with SMTP id z28mr8919804wrz.26.1484262357958; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:05:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([81.17.24.158]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b15sm6179960wma.5.2017.01.12.15.05.56 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:05:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 23:05:54 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: spamassassin not lethal anymore Message-ID: <20170112230554.7b8db106@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <62a3cbd1-e4c2-3829-208d-7e859d81d9e7@pinyon.org> References: <2463a238-e10f-e81d-cab1-5a7eaf774590@pinyon.org> <20170111210507.2dc39818c6e9d439abb21ee6@sohara.org> <1598f8c4238.279b.0b331fcf0b21179f1640bd439e3f4a1e@tundraware.com> <41546.128.135.52.6.1484176714.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <62a3cbd1-e4c2-3829-208d-7e859d81d9e7@pinyon.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 23:06:00 -0000 On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 14:58:10 -0700 Russell L. Carter wrote: > On 01/11/17 16:18, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > > On Wed, January 11, 2017 4:00 pm, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > >> Milter greylist also helps considerably > >> > > > > I'm usually using sqlgrey for greylisting. In addition to that I'm > > using amavisd (that harnesses spamassassin, clamav (and/or other > > anti-viruses, - yes, I have windows people receiving their mail on > > our UNIX servers), and variety of distributed spam signature > > databases. Also, in postfix configuration (that we use as MTA) we > > add some RBLs: > > > > reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org, > > reject_rbl_client bl.spamcop.net, > > reject_rbl_client cbl.abuseat.org, cbl is part of zen > > I hope, this helps. > > I had hoped I wouldn't need to do a deep dive on state-of-the-art > spam killing, but it's 2017 and the game has gotten tougher. You haven't actually determined whether you have a specific problem with SA, or whether your spam has just got harder. You might want to upload a few low-scoring spams to pastebin and ask on the SA user list. > Thanks for these suggestions. I'm implementing greylisting, pyzor, > razor, razor2 has been a standard part of SA and on by default, since 2006. > and the above client_recipient_restrictions. dcc I don't > quite understand yet. be aware that dcc is not a test for spam, it's a test for any kind of bulk mail.