From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 13:24:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2B116A4CE for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:24:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net (mail5.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6ED143D64 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:24:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 6111 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2004 21:24:08 -0000 Received: from dsl027-160-063.atl1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) encrypted SMTP for ; 8 Jan 2004 21:24:08 -0000 Received: from 10.50.40.206 (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i08LO1M2039230; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 16:24:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) From: John Baldwin To: Ceri Davies , Scott Long Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:38:31 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <20040107235737.I32227@pooker.samsco.home> <20040108163647.GR8322@submonkey.net> In-Reply-To: <20040108163647.GR8322@submonkey.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200401081538.31854.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discussion on the future of floppies in 5.x and 6.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 21:24:13 -0000 On Thursday 08 January 2004 11:36 am, Ceri Davies wrote: > On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 12:35:01AM -0700, Scott Long wrote: > > All, > > > > Every FreeBSD release cycle in the past year has hit bumps due to install > > floppy problems. This is becoming more and more of a burden on the > > Release Engineering Team, as we simply do not have the resources to > > constantly battle the floppies. > > Floppies can go as far as I'm concerned, with the one proviso that we > start shipping a /boot.config containing '-P'. Without floppies, the > only ways to do a headless install are PXE and cutting your own release > with that /boot.config in place, and not all machines can do PXE. -P breaks machines with USB keyboards because it doesn't use a very smary keyboard probe check. That's why it was turned off in the first place. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org