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Date:      Mon, 7 Jan 2002 13:49:07 +0100
From:      Rogier Steehouder <r.j.s@gmx.net>
To:        Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net>
Cc:        FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Can I rename root?
Message-ID:  <20020107134907.B835@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <20020107064602.GA3480@raggedclown.net>; from cliff@raggedclown.net on Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 07:46:03AM %2B0100
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On 07-01-2002 07:46 (+0100), Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 10:09:35PM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote:
> > Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net> writes:
> > 
> > > As they say on IRC, roflmao..

I don't use IRC.

> > > Yup, all someone needs to do is to egrep about 100 million lines of
> > > source code for every program that could possibly be run on FBSD
> > > for the usernames you don't want on your system.
> > > 
> > > Sounds like a job for bicycle repair-man to me...

I should think most programmers know their code and know which usernames
are needed. Maybe it is quite a job for the base system, but what about
the ports collection.

Or am I still too naieve.

> > Sounds like a job for someone with time to post worse-than-useless
> > ridicule of newbies.

After more than 16 months of using FreeBSD from 4.0 to 4.4, I don't
consider myself a newbie.

> Someone who takes it on themselves to rename root, until told otherwise
> is not a newbie.
> He was given lots of reasons why not.

I have studied applied physics, I believe very little without proof.

> He did not accept any of them until someone went to the effort of
> finding a piece of source code that showed why not.
> I.e. *soneone else* went to the effort, not him, someone else.
> Now he wants a justification from *someone else* on what user-ids
> he leaves on his system.

It's not my fault I cannot read C :-)
(At least not without some difficulty, and not how some people write
their code)

> It was not ridicule, it was a statement of what would be involved in
> such an exercise. If he distrusts the default users that come with the
> base system so much then *he* can do the egrep, he can provide the
> information for others.

I know it would be quite an exercise. That's why I asked first: maybe
someone already tried. The quickest and easiest way to learn something
new is to ask someone who already knows.

I really expected one of the programmers to respond along the lines of
"Don't do that, it will break my program", but until Ceri noone could
actually name a program.

I have seen the error of my way.

With kind regards, Rogier Steehouder

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