From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 19 11:12:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 909A216A4B3; Fri, 19 Sep 2003 11:12:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from priv-edtnes09-hme0.telusplanet.net (outbound02.telus.net [199.185.220.221]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AFB743FF9; Fri, 19 Sep 2003 11:12:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cpressey@catseye.mine.nu) Received: from kallisti.ca ([207.81.23.108]) by priv-edtnes09-hme0.telusplanet.netSMTP <20030919181220.QPWQ21920.priv-edtnes09-hme0.telusplanet.net@kallisti.ca>; Fri, 19 Sep 2003 12:12:20 -0600 Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 11:14:38 -0700 From: Chris Pressey To: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <20030919111438.5025ea0c.cpressey@catseye.mine.nu> In-Reply-To: <20030919175349.GB60318@submonkey.net> References: <20030918152942.5c7163df.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030918234442.51921f77.sheepkiller@cultdeadsheep.org> <20030918221319.GD1558@FreeBSD.org> <20030919133900.451a3f5d.ltning@anduin.net> <20030919121014.GD386@FreeBSD.org> <3F6B1722.7000701@tenebras.com> <20030919105144.730068ac.cpressey@catseye.mine.nu> <20030919175349.GB60318@submonkey.net> Organization: Cat's Eye Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mail selection options in sysinstall(8). X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 18:12:22 -0000 On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 18:53:49 +0100 Ceri Davies wrote: > On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 10:51:44AM -0700, Chris Pressey wrote: > > On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 07:48:02 -0700 > > Michael Sierchio wrote: > > > > > Simon L. Nielsen wrote: > > > > > > > As mentioned by Tom's original mail that isn't possible due to > > > > the qmail license. You can go bug djb about it :-) (though I > > > > doubt it will change anything). > > > > > > > > Note, the license is the reason why qmail isn't included, it's > > > > not a crusade against qmail - I also use qmail myself some > > > > places. > > > > > > Note: in my view the problem is that the current port maintainer > > > has decided to produce an install that is not conformant with > > > Dan's license granting an exception to the requirement for his > > > approval. It is entirely possible to make a binary package that > > > either: meets with his approval, or; fulfills the requirements > > > for the exemption. > > > > I quite agree. Quoting http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html : > > > > "You are permitted to distribute a precompiled var-qmail package if > > (1) installing the package produces exactly the same /var/qmail > > hierarchy as a user would obtain by downloading, compiling, and > > installing qmail-1.03.tar.gz, fastforward-0.51.tar.gz, and > > dot-forward-0.71.tar.gz;(2) the package behaves correctly, i.e., the > > same way as normal qmail+fastforward+dot-forward installations on > > all other systems; and(3) the package's creator warrants that he has > > made a good-faith attempt to ensure that the package behaves > > correctly." > > > > Frankly I'd be surprised if a package built straight from the qmail > > port didn't meet these requirements. > > If I installed a package that put itself in /var simply because the > guy who wrote it says that's where it should be (on my system!), then > I wouldn't be best pleased. Enough said. But that's not an argument for denying it to other users, who quite possibly agree that it should go into /var, or who simply don't care overmuch where it goes. -Chris