From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 6 12:18: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from entropy.tmok.com (entropy.tmok.com [204.17.163.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F319D37B544 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 12:17:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wonko@entropy.tmok.com) Received: (from wonko@localhost) by entropy.tmok.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA03258; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 15:25:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Hechinger Message-Id: <200006061925.PAA03258@entropy.tmok.com> Subject: Re: softupdates In-Reply-To: <022a01bfcfe6$fa350670$ca406f8f@mdacc.tmc.edu> from Jonathan Fosburgh at "Jun 6, 2000 1:42:25 pm" To: fosburgh@flash.net (Jonathan Fosburgh) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 15:25:12 -0400 (EDT) Cc: drek@zupa.bigstudios.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: wonko@entropy.tmok.com X-Useless-Header: why? because i can. X-Organization: The Ministry of Knowledge X-Dreams: an OpenWin that is based on current MIT X11 releases X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jonathan Fosburgh drunkenly mumbled... > FYI, I have been bit by this bug too, with softupdates enabled. > Fortunately, most of /var survived, unfortunately, /var/db/pkg was hosed and > fsck still can't clean it. For the most part, however, softupdates have > only been helpful. I only loose data now if I have a panic (which I don't > think has happened since I upgraded to 4.0 some time ago), X locks up, or > there was a power outage right at a time when a file was being updated. > Without softupdates, I often would loose a number of files in the above > cases, now maybe one, and that is rare. so this says to me i want to start using softupdates. this machine has never paniced besides the floppy instance. so i'm not expecting to have much trouble, rather, when i do have trouble, i want to minimize the damage. should i consider upgrading from 3.4-stable to 4.0-stable? what is the best way to go about this with minimum downtime? should i even bother with make buildworld;make kernel;make installworld;mergemaster;etc.. or should i just pop the 4.0-release cd in and do an upgrade. thanks, -brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message