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Date:      Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:19:49 -0600
From:      "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy@veldy.net>
To:        "Bob Willcox" <bob@immure.com>, "Bernhard Beck" <bbeck@mindmaker.com>
Cc:        <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Athlon Thunderbird 700 w. Asus K7M Motherboard vs. FreeBSD 4.2
Message-ID:  <031e01c08643$0134c420$3028680a@tgt.com>
References:  <3A5F1F43.EE70CB3C@inode.at> <20010112161044.A97484@walton.maths.tcd.ie> <009e01c07cb7$132d9e30$3028680a@tgt.com> <3A5F3951.9932EED5@mindmaker.com> <00d101c07cbe$4f1f84b0$3028680a@tgt.com> <3A5F95AF.F8B120D4@mindmaker.com> <20010124141126.A97916@luke.immure.com>

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Yes - I have since found that you are correct.  I have found or heard rumor
of many people out there (especially on EBAY) selling Athlons as a
Thunderbird when in fact it was a classic.  Usually, I have found this out
when I specifically queried them about it - or they simply refused to
answer.

Tom Veldhouse
veldy@veldy.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Willcox" <bob@immure.com>
To: "Bernhard Beck" <bbeck@mindmaker.com>
Cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy@veldy.net>; <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: Athlon Thunderbird 700 w. Asus K7M Motherboard vs. FreeBSD 4.2


> I can attest to the fact that Slot A thunderbirds do exist. I own 3 of
> them (one 900 and 2 700 MHz). I guess I was fortunate that my Slot A
> thuderbirds worked properly (all running FreeBSD) in the MBs (MSI and
> Abit) that I have, though I have also heard that problems exist with
> some MBs
>
> Bob
>
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 03:39:27PM -0800, Bernhard Beck wrote:
> > According to an article published in c't 14/2000, page 32 (online at
> > http://www.heise.de/ct/00/14/032/default.shtml, use Altavista's
> > Babelfish to translate), Slot A Thunderbirds do exist. In a nutshell
> > among other things AMD slightly changed the bus interface design on the
> > Thunderbirds so that you need chipsets like VIA KT133, KM133 or AMD 760.
> > But under certain conditions the Thunderbird can also work with a KX133
> > or the Irongate chipset.
> > There is a nice table at the end of the article listing a few Slot A
> > motherboards and if they worked or not with the two sample Slot A
> > Thunderbirds c't had available in their lab at that time.
> > Michael's Asus K7M with Irongate chipset is listed as working with the
> > exact same BIOS version.
>
>  ... snip ...
>
> --
> Bob Willcox             The reason we come up with new versions is not to
> bob@vieo.com            fix bugs.  It's absolutely not.
> Austin, TX                              -- Bill Gates
>
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