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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 62dcd87ba505015b27f76946b2a76a46; Sat, 16 Mar 2024 16:03:11 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Millard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.400.31\)) Subject: Re: Proposed ports deprecation and removal policy Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2024 09:03:00 -0700 References: <1068734D-4D5D-4E13-AC1E-D91BBDBE0486@yahoo.com> To: eugen@grosbein.net, daniel.engberg.lists@pyret.net, FreeBSD Mailing List In-Reply-To: <1068734D-4D5D-4E13-AC1E-D91BBDBE0486@yahoo.com> Message-Id: <02FAD836-6F5C-41A4-9915-49CCD00CDB4E@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.400.31) X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.995]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.64.205:from]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.64.205:from]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Txm9v6h5sz4NBr [Just trying to get Daniel's E-mail address right this time.] On Mar 16, 2024, at 08:58, Mark Millard wrote: > Eugene Grosbein wrote on > Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2024 13:16:21 UTC : >=20 >> 16.03.2024 17:03, Daniel Engberg wrote: >>=20 >>> A key difference is though that browsers such as Firefox or Chromium = are maintained upstream including reporting etc. >>=20 >> It does not stop browsers from being vulnerable all the time. All = times. So, no difference in practical point of view. >> In theory, there is difference. Not in practice. >=20 > My guess here is that Daniel is thinking of properties like: > How long does a discovered vulnerability generally stay as > a vulnerability after discovery? There might generally be a > difference for code maintained by an upstream vs. code not > maintained by an upstream, for example. There might be > practical consequences to such distinctions in various kinds > of cases. >=20 > The overall Boolean status for "being vulnerable" in at least > one way vs. Daniel's comment seem mismatched and not all that > relevant to each other. >=20 > The "tools, not policy" point could apply to both. My point > here is more limited to the potentially mismatched kind of > referenced context. =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com