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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 15:33:28 -0000 On Wed, 2020-02-26 at 06:32 +0100, Klaus Küchemann via freebsd-arm wrote: > But that˙s the absolute joke of the century :-) that these issues > last so long here on the mailing list The current freebsd-arm devs keep pointing out that nobody is especially interested in maintaining or working on rpi* stuff at all. Why in the world would you be surprised that nobody is working on it? If you want to run freebsd on arm hardware, try using hardware that people are actually working to support. If you must use crappy rpi hardware, either run linux on it, or consider paying someone to do the freebsd support you need. Complaining that nobody will work for free on hardware they hate working on is just... complaining. Pointlessly. -- Ian