From owner-freebsd-arch Wed Aug 30 10: 0: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from palrel3.hp.com (palrel3.hp.com [156.153.255.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954E837B42C for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adlmail.cup.hp.com (adlmail.cup.hp.com [15.0.100.30]) by palrel3.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C27A2B55; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cup.hp.com (gauss.cup.hp.com [15.28.97.152]) by adlmail.cup.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/8.9.3 SMKit7.02) with ESMTP id KAA23904; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <39AD3D96.7256B648@cup.hp.com> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 13:00:06 -0400 From: Marcel Moolenaar Organization: Hewlett-Packard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: build tools as separate distribution References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > What would the good people think of moving gcc, gas, ld etc., as well > as include files and static libraries out of the bin dist and into a > separate distribution, called e.g. prog or devel? There are a lot of > cases (e.g. firewalls, mail gateways) where you neither need nor want > build tools, and PicoBSD is sometimes too radical. This would provide > a sort of middle path between the too-minimalist PicoBSD and the > not-minimalist-enough bin dist we have today. Funny you mention this. I have been in contact with the project manager of the OpenWatcom project and he told me that watcom is being ported to FreeBSD. For those who don't know what watcom is: Watcom is a compiler for ia32 that compiles code for dos, dos4gw, different flavors of Windows, OS/2 and Novell (I probably forget some). An alpha port was almost finished when the product was discontinued. The product will be open source in a couple of months and ports for FreeBSD (I said this already) and probably Linux will be made. In short: I see interesting possibilities and having the compilers be a seperate distribution can make certain possibilities more attractive. Am I vague enough? :-) see also http://www.openwatcom.org/ -- Marcel Moolenaar mail: marcel@cup.hp.com / marcel@FreeBSD.org tel: (408) 447-4222 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message