From owner-ctm-users@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 22:18:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ctm-users@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0BA337B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sep.oldach.net (sep.oldach.net [194.180.25.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F10143F85 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:18:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hmo@sep.oldach.net) Received: from sep.oldach.net (localhost [127.0.0.1])h5H5HolT061305 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 17 Jun 2003 07:17:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hmo@sep.oldach.net) Received: (from hmo@localhost) by sep.oldach.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5H5HcnQ061297; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 07:17:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hmo) Message-Id: <200306170517.h5H5HcnQ061297@sep.oldach.net> In-Reply-To: <20030616225201.GP273@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> from Peter Jeremy at "Jun 17, 2003 8:52: 1 am" To: peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au (Peter Jeremy) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 07:17:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Helge Oldach X-Message-Flag: No HTML mail please MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: ctm-users@freebsd.org cc: jhs@berklix.org cc: mark@grondar.org Subject: Re: CTM - any users left? X-BeenThere: ctm-users@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CTM User discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 05:18:28 -0000 Peter Jeremy: > On 2003-Jun-17 00:29:04 +0200, Julian Stacey wrote: > >At least one friend used to ftp the deltas, but didn't get them by > >subscription. > > I get CTM by mail at work - CVSup isn't an option due to firewall > restrictions (no outgoing access other than FTP and HTTP). > > At home, I normally FTP the CTM files - I find it more convenient than > CVSup since I understand how it all fits together and can easily move > the deltas between systems. It also has the advantage of being part > of the base system (and doesn't pull in Modula-2). ACK! Plus, the modification time of the CTM deltas is maintained when they are obtained through ftp, and then the modification time of the src/ files is maintained through "ctm -u". This provides a rough idea at what point in time a specific src file was changed, to easily correlate with mailing lists. Personally I obtain deltas through ftp, and distribute them further through rsync (which also works through firewalls). I don't object moving CTM to ports however. I don't care. But CTM is a pretty small piece - why take the effort to change the current mode of operation? Helge