From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 21 13:35:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5038816A41F; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:35:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcolz@stack.nl) Received: from mailhost.stack.nl (vaak.stack.nl [131.155.140.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E6D43D55; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:34:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcolz@stack.nl) Received: from hammer.stack.nl (hammer.stack.nl [IPv6:2001:610:1108:5010::153]) by mailhost.stack.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF44A303C; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:34:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: by hammer.stack.nl (Postfix, from userid 333) id ADD2166D0; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:34:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:34:51 +0200 From: Marc Olzheim To: Robert Watson Message-ID: <20050721133451.GB77633@stack.nl> References: <1121917413.4895.47.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050721113927.T97888@fledge.watson.org> <20050721113737.GB52753@stack.nl> <20050721125632.F97888@fledge.watson.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2B/JsCI69OhZNC5r" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050721125632.F97888@fledge.watson.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD hammer.stack.nl 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE X-URL: http://www.stack.nl/~marcolz/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: Marc Olzheim , Alexey Yakimovich , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quality of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:35:10 -0000 --2B/JsCI69OhZNC5r Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 01:20:49PM +0100, Robert Watson wrote: > >I know FreeBSD 5 was a strange exception in the relase scheduling and=20 > >that a lot has been learned from it for the future and I'm certainly not= =20 > >unthankful for all the work that's done, but I'd like a clear answer on= =20 > >what to do now in regard to taking FreeBSD 5 into 'real' production... [snip] > In terms of advice: >=20 > If you have a "product" due out more than 3 months from now, I think 6.x= =20 > is the obvious way to go: you want to be ahead of the curve so that you= =20 > can have the foundation for your product in sync with the FreeBSD=20 > production release cycle, and avoid jumping major releases early in the= =20 > product life cycle. 6.x has significant performance and stability=20 > improvements -- performance especially in the area of file system=20 > performance on SMP, preemption, network stack, and memory management, and= =20 > stability especially in the area of tty support. By "product", I mean a= =20 > range of things: the OS foundation of an embedded product such as a=20 > firewall or storage appliance, or deployment of an internal product, such= =20 > as a virtual server product at an ISP. [snip] Robert, thanks again for your clear and straight answer. :-) We fall in the Yahoo-like category of FreeBSD users (in more than one way) and have been testing a bit with 6.x, just not as heavy as with 5.x. Since I've already experienced the easy upgrade path before (the way back to 5.x has been a bit more hairy btw.), it will be easy enough for me to upgrade some servers to 6.x and start testing that, which is excatly what I will do. Because my current 5.x machines have to run with INVARIANTS to be in production for more than a few seconds, the performance will no doubt be better anyway. I'll let the debug code enabled on most machines for now anyhow to possibly provide more useful bug reports. :-) Thanks again, your answer was of great value to me. Marc --2B/JsCI69OhZNC5r Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFC36R7ezjnobFOgrERAvHfAKCsCljAHuBTD0xpSZQ3RFzHRj9UzACfTvVF jXwEQEdb2gfwAZjIX1FChHM= =Tw7V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2B/JsCI69OhZNC5r--