From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 11 21:47:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF5C16A403 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 21:47:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B60413C45A for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 21:47:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E0E1A3C19; Fri, 11 May 2007 14:48:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 92C91514F8; Fri, 11 May 2007 17:47:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 17:47:35 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Roger Miranda Message-ID: <20070511214735.GA31850@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200705111442.52523.rmiranda@digitalrelay.ca> <200705111621.26691.rmiranda@digitalrelay.ca> <20070511213830.GA31604@xor.obsecurity.org> <200705111643.08417.rmiranda@digitalrelay.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200705111643.08417.rmiranda@digitalrelay.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Hard Hang, nothing in logs / no panics X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 21:47:36 -0000 On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 04:43:06PM -0500, Roger Miranda wrote: > > > You missed that the debugger is there to debug bugs (including > > deadlocks). Break to the debugger and obtain the necessary debugging > > I should've been more clear. I can not break to the debugger (CTRL-ALT-ESC) > when the system locks up. You may need the KDB_STOP_NMI option, especially if it is an SMP system. I forget if you also need to enable a sysctl on 6.x (look at sysctl -a | grep nmi for the obvious one) > Am I possible looking at a hardware issue? If so > what is the best way to test for it? If that doesn't work then in my experience it is likely to be hardware-related. The usual debugging procedure then involves trying to replicate on an unrelated machine, and/or swapping out hardware components. Kris