From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 14:36:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC6D0272 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 14:36:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77599159D for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 14:36:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s88EaKWe067827 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 8 Sep 2014 08:36:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s88EaKJp067824; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 08:36:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 08:36:20 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Eric van Gyzen Subject: Re: Improving /etc/motd and ANSI In-Reply-To: <540DBB35.6070003@vangyzen.net> Message-ID: References: <20140908053250.GE82175@funkthat.com> <540DABD4.20908@vangyzen.net> <540DBB35.6070003@vangyzen.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 08 Sep 2014 08:36:21 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 14:36:22 -0000 On Mon, 8 Sep 2014, Eric van Gyzen wrote: > On 09/08/2014 10:03, Warren Block wrote: >> It was pointed out to me not that long ago that we have no web browser >> in the base install. Having a URL-only introduction would make it >> more difficult for some users to read that introduction. > > So, there are users who install FreeBSD as the _only_ operating system > on the _only_ web-capable device in their vicinity, yet need the > assistance provided by this introduction? Please help me understand > this kind of user, as my imagination fails me. Mostly my view also, but look at it the other way: here is the operating system, and here are the documents, ...but not in a form that can be read with the operating system just installed. For now, the hybrid approach of both URLs and text covers all users. It just makes presenting a readable, compact introduction more difficult.