From owner-freebsd-ppc Thu Feb 20 8:15:42 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A23537B401; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:15:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mallard.mail.pas.earthlink.net (mallard.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E110843FBD; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:15:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from welchsm@earthlink.net) Received: from waldorf.psp.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.78.20]) by mallard.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18ltME-0005EI-00; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:15:34 -0800 Received: from [207.217.78.202] by EarthlinkWAM via HTTP; Thu Feb 20 08:15:34 PST 2003 Message-ID: <7241722.1045757734299.JavaMail.nobody@waldorf.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:15:31 -0600 (GMT) From: Sean Welch Reply-To: Sean_Welch@alum.wofford.org To: Andrew Gallatin , Peter Grehan Subject: Re: Re: Also interested in testing Cc: freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Web Access Mail version 3.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks (both of you) for the clarification. It sounds as though the "safest" method would be to run the loader on HFS+ with everything else on the UFS slice. The OS X loader mod is an interesting possibility; they already have some sort of support for their own funky mod of UFS. (Don't try to run OS X on UFS -- it is really flakey) I saw some work being done over in the OpenBSD camp to support that version of UFS and it looked to me as though the addressing was non-standard. Maybe standard UFS support wouldn't be that hard to add, but I'd hate to have to rely on their code to boot FreeBSD. Has anyone taken a look at "ofwboot" from Net/OpenBSD? (At first glance it appears both are using the same code...) Also, is there any support for the airport wireless yet? When I was reading through support for the platform offered by the other BSDs, I believe I saw that the modem is attached internally to the USB bus; any chance that since 5.0 supports USB modems it is just recognized as one of those? OpenBSD (I think it was) could see the modem but had no driver for it. Sean -------Original Message------- From: Andrew Gallatin Sent: 02/20/03 07:44 AM To: Peter Grehan Subject: Re: Also interested in testing > > Peter Grehan writes: > > In fact, when I was playing with this, the loader couldn't really pass > > the root device to the kernel either, since you need to specify the > > root device in OFW syntax (<30 chars or so of hex and device names>), > > not FreeBSD syntax (ad0s10). So in either case, the kernel would > > stop and ask for its root. > > This has to be fixed, but in the meantime, at the loader prompt you can issue > something like: > > > set vfs.root.mountfrom=ufs:ad0s11 > > and then boot. Yes, of course. But its shorter to type ufs:ad0s11 at the mountroot prompt ;) What's the prognosis for the loader learning enough about HFS or HFS+ to be able to pull its configuration from files? Alternatively, I wonder if we could teach the OS-X boot loader about FFS so that it could load the loader from a FFS partition, and the loader could remain blissfully ignorant about HFS. Drew > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ppc" in the body of the message