From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 9 18:53:03 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4741FE94B85 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2017 18:53:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.74]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0E0171118 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2017 18:53:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.18.98]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue101 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MeShL-1ehKnU00MB-00QADX; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 19:52:59 +0100 Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2017 19:52:58 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Victor Sudakov Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: looks like I am no longer welcome around here Message-Id: <20171209195258.d4727a94.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20171209160730.GA3370@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20171209135853.a6c104f5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20171209160730.GA3370@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:YWkP/rCzaDB4uUj6kHPGdv44DXscqN+L3o3jMcRrHFnCR1Z+eZJ ZPmm1h0I+GrnRVJPrChn6w5nzalA8U0+yVZnaVGleUZykQkwg2O/Q85vHDv/Y4J9FIsda0B Q5nOAQGV1JZ4tSvSBI4MR0Hmzf08xGSiUKacg0rozDwxbUM6rsMNuTkVImfgfYUha+VKhXb 2mXCWK+JiGxPJAtIMxZVQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:7xhLvnWQurU=:+m3hKGFQEYaN9khZVf3g55 bjACYOWdfusuBs2zQmShmjdnfpq+7dRn5/eY+pgsElDRYtX2wpQDfcbYL+TyCt6j9PbQWrwLe WeyByorqEiPKTGZyfQf/p0Agzm0wdE22+DzVwKor4jvhhmof5bMEszbPVp1TlnD96GoXu+KBn jhvqdHxslR3pT4Fmgfv1F7GCOJlDRSzTlCQ9+mVjJDZF59LUGPFSrTDL9EFTiCHwTWOc78fDL lz1NK81f1wmvVTJzOFONZUcXXQhEFbriiXdYQhjwyxCEZ3YBToDL7AzG94Yf4AvDpw9ENmngj FcCLGc3bd9vaAjIlhH1hTuhaHztiioeJTvPxnH039EycXphhPHYQiOqy0AmF7IqiH5QUetNoR P3UFMdwOMee2JRaYW1wajUndyZPJSE8c8HRLlFhOjgI25IaBAKG/kRAFdva6Lycyy86uT6YRT NMwRnTjJiuyaC+nkKcx+l3cS988WTBM9iWpAit8cmgLpGRbXvE5cjsRtP9twmIwkh5rY1u8ji LA87Xsq6frA/GSE4Cuzy9RGdIGCpxEYTO5OjIGDHmALvUPYeAPa3jTT7Fsh8GKefOMFm3M9U1 GIAGIq1TGDJp4kjs8nFg5ogqoMl2wucAtrrdzbOHzsLIVlYHWX71Lp301fW5yKhXeDcYlMoFX ikptOjUizPEE/MCO+Qh0/L2Rp3MoxTQyOTuYnCzhw8kT5x+jduIbopanV7wfDULM2vCjlwZ13 BE+DeTNlA5JtmzS/RmrNDP54L3xNG10ILbeu7cqhQjs/8C6vhahDUx9islU= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2017 18:53:03 -0000 On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 23:07:30 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Carmel NY wrote: > > > > Just my own opinion; however, I do not consider synth, unlike poudriere, to be bloated. > > I don't even consider poudriere bloated. It is neat, does not require > weird dependencies or GUI libs, stores its configuration in text > files, uses the standard ports and jail infrastructure. Why would > anyone call it bloated? Not exactly bloated, but it could be considered "overhead" just to build one or two ports. However, Poudriere is not intended as a replacement for portmaster or portmanager, that's important to keep in mind. And for the specific case I mentioned, local repositories and restricted lists are the way to go. If even that's too much, the classic "make install" and "pkg lock" will probably be okay. Except for the name, I don't dislike anything specific about Poudriere. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...