From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jan 18 17:28:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from queasy.outpost.co.nz (outpost2.inspire.net.nz [203.96.157.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8AC4615139 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:28:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from crh@outpost.co.nz) Received: (qmail 63982 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2000 01:26:15 -0000 Received: from bumf.outpost.co.nz (HELO outpost.co.nz) (192.168.1.4) by queasy.outpost.co.nz with SMTP; 19 Jan 2000 01:26:15 -0000 Message-ID: <38863BEC.F6AE9741@outpost.co.nz> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:34:20 -0800 From: Craig Harding Organization: Outpost Digital Media Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: something like video4linux the 2. (some thoughts...) References: <200001180926.BAA20178@rah.star-gate.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Amancio Hasty wrote: > Let me try to make it even clearer we need a major push on the > application side. We can spend man years doing cool low > level driver stuff however the fact remains who is going > to write the apps. I understand there will be rare occasions for > linux commercial video offerings but for now they will be > just few . Sorry Amancio, but I can't disagree more strongly. Given, as you acknowledge, that there isn't a heap of people working in multimedia on FreeBSD, then expecting a whole bunch of really cool applications to fall out of the tree is a bit unrealistic. If we've learnt anything from that last 18 months, it should be that no matter how much we dislike the fact, commercial software vendors will produce a Linux binary long before they produce a FreeBSD one. We already have at least 99% of the infrastructure in place to use these linux apps, but in the category of multimedia applications we're stuffed without a V4L interface. Useful multimedia applications *are* coming to Linux, if we get the device interface right then the same apps will run on FreeBSD as well. And no-one here will have had to wait for any FreeBSD multimedia application hackers to magically appear from nowhere. > Code up the low level kernel interfaces and drivers then pray > that the applications people will come along and do the coding. If we get the right kernel interface, we can run the applications that already exist! (like the linux version of RealProducer Plus, which I have bought and sits on my webcam machine encoding RealAudio from a live feed. Even the GUI interface works!). -- C. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message