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Date:      Fri, 16 Dec 2016 15:17:03 +0100
From:      Torsten Zuehlsdorff <mailinglists@toco-domains.de>
To:        Willem Jan Withagen <wjw@withagen.nl>, Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: what is the purpose of the quarterly ports branches?
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On 16.12.2016 11:38, Willem Jan Withagen wrote:
> On 16-12-2016 11:10, Julian Elischer wrote:
>> On 16/12/2016 4:01 PM, Dave Cottlehuber wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2016, at 23:14, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
>>>> I heard that ports' SVN is mirrored to Github. Isn't it enough to just
>>>> create a branch or tag for each quarterly release? Even if quarterly
>>>> packages are deleted, re-building packages from such branch/tag should
>>>> allow to recreate those packages as required since the same code would
>>>> give the same packages?
>>> These branches already exist BTW:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-ports/tree/branches/2016Q3
>>
>> the trouble is that the packages are deleted as soon as they are stable.
>
> It is sort of amusing/depressing/hilarious of all the flavours and ways
> everybody works with ports. And I've used them all, just hard core
> building, postmaster, portsnap, pouderiere...
> Each has its merit, but IMHO everything is not as bad as frozen in stone
> CentOS packages.

Or Ubunut or or or...

One of the big advantages of the portstree is, that you actually get new 
versions of the software and not just security-fixes.

I regularly stumble across actual bugs, which are there for years, just 
because the are not fixed by purpose. This is really really frustrating.
Bringing new versions is a big plus for the ports-tree. And if you don't 
need them you are free to stay with the old ones. And its easy enough to 
build and change everything like you want. Ever really tried this for 
various linux-distros? Its very painful.

Greetings,
Torsten



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