From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 15:30:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C5516A4CE for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2004 15:30:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from priv-edtnes40.telusplanet.net (outbound05.telus.net [199.185.220.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465C943D2D for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2004 15:30:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cpressey@catseye.mine.nu) Received: from catseye.biscuit.boo ([154.5.85.228]) by priv-edtnes40.telusplanet.netSMTP <20040305233006.TXJJ25767.priv-edtnes40.telusplanet.net@catseye.biscuit.boo>; Fri, 5 Mar 2004 16:30:06 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 15:35:05 -0800 From: Chris Pressey To: Narvi Message-Id: <20040305153505.74061868.cpressey@catseye.mine.nu> In-Reply-To: <20040306005744.T38020@haldjas.folklore.ee> References: <2EAEEFC4-6EEE-11D8-AE09-000A95DA58FE@jimz.net> <20040305145853.3a365f60.cpressey@catseye.mine.nu> <20040306005744.T38020@haldjas.folklore.ee> Organization: Cat's Eye Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.9 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: dgw@liwest.at cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Most wanted X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 23:30:07 -0000 On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 01:02:14 +0200 (EET) Narvi wrote: > > On Fri, 5 Mar 2004, Chris Pressey wrote: > > > On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 17:17:40 -0500 > > Jim Zajkowski wrote: > > > > > On Mar 5, 2004, at 6:02 PM, Daniela wrote: > > > > > > > But I'm so into low-level programming, that it's (sometimes) > > > > easier for me to code in ASM than in C. > > > > > > Like I said, may you have a long and successful career in writing > > > device drivers and firmware. > > > > Or compilers. > > The majority of speed in compilers does not come from assembler > tricks. I know. I was merely pointing out that firmware programming is not the only career path for someone who specializes in assembly. > [...] > Pick up a compiler book - any compiler book - and you will see > relatively little about ASM. I don't think that's because it's unimportant. To the contrary: "Familiarity with the target machine and its instruction set is a prerequisite for designing a good code generator. Unfortunately, in a general discussion of code generation it is not possible to describe the nuances of any target machine in sufficient detail to be able to generate good code for a complete language on that machine." -- The "Dragon" Book, pp 519 -Chris