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Date:      Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:29:15 +0100
From:      Pietro Cerutti <gahr@FreeBSD.org>
To:        bf1783@gmail.com
Cc:        svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, portmgr@FreeBSD.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r307833 - head/x11-toolkits/fox16
Message-ID:  <20121127142915.GK53110@gahrfit.gahr.ch>
In-Reply-To: <CAGFTUwNEm-ZZBu_a0NNQrfQJA5uX%2BOcXPX8j3=WghdevWJBQXQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On 2012-Nov-27, 08:12, b. f. wrote:
> On 11/27/12, Pietro Cerutti <gahr@freebsd.org> wrote:
> > On 2012-Nov-27, 07:37, b. f. wrote:
> >> On 11/27/12, Pietro Cerutti <gahr@freebsd.org> wrote:
> >> > Author: gahr
> >> > Date: Tue Nov 27 11:08:55 2012
> >> > New Revision: 307833
> >> > URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/307833
> >> >
> >> > Log:
> >> >   - Update to 1.6.47
> >> >     * Prototype of wndproc() was not correct for 64-bit Windows.
> >> >   - Remove shlib versions from LIB_DEPENDS
> >> >
> >> >   Feature safe:	yes
> >>
> >> I'm confused: we have changes like this that clearly aren't feature
> >> safe going into the tree without explicit permission from portmgr, and
> >> Ken stating that the release was moving forward with only a limited
> >> set of packages.  So is the ports tree still frozen, or not?
> >
> > Well I didn't see it as a sweeping change, since only a handful of ports
> > were changed. I guess personal judgment is needed to sort out
> >
> > "A sweeping change is a commit that would affect a non-trivial number of
> > packages"
> >
> > from
> >
> > "shared library version bumps" (which are said to qualify as sweep
> > commits)
> >
> > In this case, only a few (and small) ports were affected, which is why I
> > went forward.
>=20
> Could we have a clear and explicit statement from portmgr about what
> is permitted? I don't mean to pick on Pietro: this question keeps
> coming up.  A number of us have been using the rule of thumb that any
> non-cosmetic change that affects more than one default package isn't
> possible without permission.  If there is a lesser standard, or if the
> tree should be considered frozen only for a subset of packages that
> will be on the release media, then I can start making a few changes
> that some users have requested.

Agreed. Another thing which is not clear is, why 5 individual updates of
5 ports are OK but 5 PORTREVISION bumps because of a shlib change in one
commit is not OK?


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