From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 12:25:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA6A16A41C for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2005 12:25:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from mail.qubesoft.com (gate.qubesoft.com [217.169.36.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A017443D46 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2005 12:25:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from [192.168.1.254] (dhcp254.qubesoft.com [192.168.1.254]) by mail.qubesoft.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6ECPsTL045036; Thu, 14 Jul 2005 13:25:54 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) In-Reply-To: <200507141254.13401.vasiliuvlad@spymac.com> References: <200507131933.12318.B.Wildermoth@griffith.edu.au> <200507142006.54726.B.Wildermoth@griffith.edu.au> <155B452C-1BEE-4857-B3E0-256BDDBE5FF0@nlsystems.com> <200507141254.13401.vasiliuvlad@spymac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v733) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <33237DC5-E07B-4882-A0A9-2BE91586513E@nlsystems.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Doug Rabson Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 13:25:53 +0100 To: vasiliuvlad@spymac.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.733) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on mail.qubesoft.com X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.86.1/978/Thu Jul 14 12:37:27 2005 on mail.qubesoft.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 + Nvidia Display Card X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 12:25:58 -0000 On 14 Jul 2005, at 11:54, Vlad Vasiliu wrote: > On Thursday 14 July 2005 12:44, Doug Rabson wrote: > >> On 14 Jul 2005, at 11:06, Brett Wildermoth wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 07:07 pm, owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Wednesday 13 July 2005 22:43, Brett Wildermoth wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 04:18 am, owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday 13 July 2005 10:26 am, Kenneth Culver wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Quoting Brett Wildermoth : >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To all my fellow FreeBSD users, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I assume I am not the only one who is in this predicament. I >>>>>>>> have just bought seven AMD 64s with NVIDIA PCI-X graphics. With >>>>>>>> 5.4 I can get everything bar the network and X to work, with >>>>>>>> 6.0 I can get the network to work also. However no matter what >>>>>>>> I do I can't get X to work. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Why doesn't NVIDIA make a graphics driver for FreeBSD AMD64. >>>>>>>> They make one for >>>>>>>> Linux x86-64 and one for FreeBSD-x86. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Perhaps would could all post a message on nvforum. I see some >>>>>>>> people already have..... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Perhaps NVIDIA think FreeBSD is just a hobby OS...... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Last I heard, nvidia had no plans to make a FreeBSD amd64 >>>>>>> driver. >>>>>>> Just post that >>>>>>> you're pissed about it like the rest of us are... maybe they'll >>>>>>> reconsider. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Not true. FreeBSD's kernel doesn't provide some things needed >>>>>> for >>>>>> an amd64 driver to be feasible. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Like what???? what are these features? and if they are really >>>>> important why aren't they on the cards to be included into >>>>> FreeBSD...... >>>>> >>>> >>>> There are a few missing VM features that any high-performance >>>> graphics >>>> card driver would require for decent performance with PCI Express. >>>> John >>>> is working on adding those features - have patience. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current- >>>> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>> >>> I guess these feature are provided in FreeBSD x86, as a NVIDIA >>> graphics driver >>> is available for FreeBSD x86. Is FreeBSD x86-64 VM subsystem >>> different to >>> FreeBSD x86. Is the VM subsystem that low-level????? >>> >>> (Pardon my ignorance, have quite got around to reading the FreeBSD >>> kernel book >>> the publisher comped me yet) >>> >> >> Actually I think that the feature we are talking about (PAT) is >> relevant to both amd64 and i386. Proper support for PAT is required >> for decent PCI Express performance, as I understand it. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > What about the nvidia cards on agp? does that need some unavailable > stuff too? > Nvidia cards on agp work well with i386.