From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Nov 3 15:55:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D248137B405 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 15:55:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 97927 invoked by uid 100); 3 Nov 2001 23:55:05 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15332.33753.98459.38100@guru.mired.org> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 17:55:05 -0600 To: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NatWest? no thanks In-Reply-To: <8r668rbfze.68r@localhost.localdomain> References: <20011102090253.G795-100000@jodie.ncptiddische.net> <3BE2EF8D.4CB9A508@acuson.com> <63zo63brsq.o63@localhost.localdomain> <15332.18917.367328.996483@guru.mired.org> <8r668rbfze.68r@localhost.localdomain> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gary W. Swearingen types: > Mike Meyer writes: > > If you haven't, find a copy of Raskin's "The Humane Interface", and > > read it. He argues - quite convincingly - that the real problem is > > that people are being offered applications at all. It's silly to have > > to start a "word processor" to deal with a document with words in it > > vs. having to start a "drawing program" to deal with a document with > > graphics in it when the operations on the two things are fundamentally > > the same: add, select, cut, copy, paste and set properties. > [...] > But regardless of whether you offer different applications, I'd think > you'd still be left offering different documents or functions or > features. Nope. Documents - as separate files - aren't part of the interface either. They're all part of the space you're working in, and you have the same set of functions available all the time. There are markers in the space to help you select documents, but that's no different in concept than selecting pages - or bars, or scenes - in a document. Some functions may not make any sense when applied to some selections in the space, but they are always there and available. > Will it be better to use command options or menus or > user-sensitive images to control your CD player or network? Etc... > (I think the answer is that we want all methods to be available.) Why should the CD be any different from any other data - other than probably being read-only? Select the CD - or whatever part of it you want - and use the "play" function. The same idea applies to the network, though "playing" the entire network probably won't work any better than playing your entire hard drive. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message