From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Nov 21 00:38:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA23457 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 00:38:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA23439 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 00:38:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA03061; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 00:38:26 -0800 (PST) To: Charles Henrich cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serious performance issue with 2.2.5-RELEASE In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 21 Nov 1997 01:11:30 EST." <199711210611.BAA01289@crh.cl.msu.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 00:38:25 -0800 Message-ID: <3057.880101505@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Now Now, not all of us have spare hardware to throw around, besides I've done Well, now hang on a second.. If you're going to be an ISP, at least one who takes himself and his services halfway seriously, then surely cost of an extra PC (or, as I noted, even just an extra *disk*) is going to pale in comparison to the cost of inflicting instability on your user base. I also wasn't really intending on beating up on Jaye, though it might have seemed like I did, so much as his statements accompanying the bug report which noted that he was going to have potentially hundreds of web customers and such going away as a result of the failed upgrade and, well, that just stuck in my craw as one of those "doctor, doctor, it hurts when I do *this*" sort of bug reports which indicated a far more serious degree of dysfunction elsewhere. > this on my production news server twice now :) It started life as a 2.2 alph a > snap, then a few months back I installed 2.2.2-RELEASE on top of it, and just > a few weeks ago 2.2.5 on top of that. So far, everythings been running peach y > keen. Granted if I jump major OS revs (3.0) a complete from scratch start is And if that's the case then you're one of the lucky ones. Does that make it excusable as a general operating principle? No. :-) > So my rant ends in, again FreeBSD (And by the transitive property, its > developers) is the most reliable, high performance, easiest to play with, and > funnest (yea its a word, cause I said so :) to play with! Thanks mucho! Well, thanks. Still, don't you think we should be trying to set a proper example for all those ISPs wandering around lost in the woods out there? ;) Jordan