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Date:      Fri, 25 May 2001 20:02:28 +0200 (CEST)
From:      Alban Hertroys <dalroi@solfertje.student.utwente.nl>
To:        Salvo Bartolotta <bartequi@inwind.it>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Ron Klinkien <ron@zappa.demon.nl>
Subject:   Re: Athlon Power and FreeBSD-STABLE experiences.
Message-ID:  <20010525180230.E885A1F63@solfertje.student.utwente.nl>
In-Reply-To: <20010525.16051800@bartequi.ottodomain.org>

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On 25 May, Salvo Bartolotta wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> <longing for an Athlon 1/1.2 Ghz and an ASUS A7M266 mobo...>
> Is anyone currently running 4-S on this hardware, with **IDE** disks?

Yes.
It runs OK if you turn off "Delayed transactions". You will probably get
data-corruption on your HDD's if you leave that setting on. That is
supposedly a problem of the VIA 686B south-bridge, which is used on most
AMD760 based boards (including the ASUS A7M266). It's used on almost
every recent socket A board.
The problem is amplified if you have a Creative Labs SBLive, which I
have (a Live 1024).

My setup consists of only one IDE HDD (IBM DTLA 46GB, 7200rpm), and two
ATAPI-devices, which I hardly use in FreeBSD (just for games/DVD's in
Windows), so there's not much data traffic between the two IDE
controllers in the testing environment.


At first I thought I had a memory problem, so I wrote a small
test-program in C to test my system memory. That program turned out to
be quite good at testing this problem (IMO).

It writes test patterns in random order in a large amount of allocated
space, and then tries to read it back all at once.
If you need swapspace (~30MB) while testing, the machine will panic,
fail to sync it's discs and reboot - which is definately not good.

After turning off "Delayed transactions", the machine was stable. (The
memory tests succeeded, BTW).


I can make the source available if wanted.


Funny thing is that I didn't have any trouble in Windows98. I don't
know what that means, but I have my suspicions ;)


My source of information on the problem was this article:

	http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/3/18267.html

The article itself doesn't reveal too much about the problem and is
mostly biased to possible problems when running Windows, but the german
articles it links to are worth the read (if you understand german).


Does anybody know more? (Like: Is there still data-corruption without
delayed transactions? What is the benefit of delayed transactions in a
'PCI-only' system? Why didn't anybody use the AMD southbridge? Is there
intelligent life out there?)

Sorry if the lengthy answer is inconvenient to someone. I'm in a
writing mood, and I don't consider that harmful to anybody but myself.

-- 

Alban Hertroys                              http://solfertje.student.utwente.nl
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