From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 4 18:11:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.volant.org (phoenix.volant.org [205.179.79.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4EAD14D66 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:11:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patl@phoenix.volant.org) Received: from asimov.phoenix.volant.org ([205.179.79.65]) by phoenix.volant.org with smtp (Exim 1.92 #8) id 11YJ8Z-0001l0-00; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:11:27 -0700 Received: from localhost by asimov.phoenix.volant.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA20105; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:11:24 -0700 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:11:24 -0700 (PDT) From: patl@phoenix.volant.org Reply-To: patl@phoenix.volant.org Subject: Re: VMWare and friends (was: Re: GNOME: Does anyone use it?) To: Jerry Dunham Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199910042342.SAA64758@freeside.fc.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 4-Oct-99 at 16:42, Jerry Dunham (jdunham@fc.net) wrote: > patl@phoenix.volant.org babbled: > > VMWare sounds interesting; but even that isn't enough to get me to > > run NT. What I'd really like to see would be an Open Source system > > that is conceptually closer to the old IBM VM/370 design. It could > > use drivers and much of the kernel from *BSD, Linux, or whatever. > > But instead of running on top of another OS, it should be the kernel; > > and it should -not- support running programs directly, only virtual > > machines. Add a mechanism to allow VM-aware OSes to communicate > > with the VM and delegate certain operations (e.g. paging) to it, > > and you've got an ideal system for multi-os or multiple virtual host > > operations. But I digress... > > But it's a digression I LIKE. Are you and I the only ones on this list > who salivate at such thoughts? I WANT a system like that! The depressing thing for me is that I worked on a system like that 25 years ago. And that's not the only area where computer science appears to have stood still or gone backwards during that time. (Just try to find a decent macro processor.) At the popularity of Java, Perl, et. al, seem to finally be breaking the industry free of C's stranglehold; so there is some hope that language development can get back on track. -Pat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message