From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 7 03:09:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF2316A4CE for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 03:09:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED72D43D3F for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 03:09:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.250] (pool-68-161-115-118.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.115.118]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iB739M4n033064 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 6 Dec 2004 22:09:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41B51EDF.6050503@mac.com> Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 22:09:19 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bedhead@bedhead.karoo.co.uk References: <41B4F334.10909@bedhead.karoo.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <41B4F334.10909@bedhead.karoo.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.5 required=5.5 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD PowerPC Porting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 03:09:31 -0000 bedhead wrote: > Have you approached Apple for the source code they use in OSX? [ "you" is not clearly defined. ] Sure. I am or was reasonably familiar with the source code Apple has released, and there are FreeBSD committers who now work at Apple. > I thought open source meant that you could use the code but any > changes / modifications had to be made available to the originator and > the community under terms of most open source licenses. Yes, the Apple license is open source, which means that source to most of MacOS X is indeed available as a project called Darwin: http://developer.apple.com/darwin/ http://www.opensource.org/licenses/apsl-2.0.php There is also anonymous-CVS and CVS-over-SSH available. > I would class the entire port that Apple did as a huge change. OK. > I am not a UN*X user, nor do I understand most of UN*X, although my > reasons for visiting your site and for making the above suggestion are > as follows: It is unclear whether you are in the right mailing list (freebsd-advocacy?), although you did ask questions. :-) [ ... ] > 4. Most of All - I think that the development of PPC FreeBSD code by > the originators of the code would keep the PPC code centralised, up to > date with other ports and most of all, help Apple (if they are then > willing to use your code base). There is a reasonable amount of cross-pollination between the two projects, although the focus is somewhat different. I would be more likely to run MacOS X on Intel hardware than I would be to run FreeBSD on a PowerPC box, frankly, but to some extent that would depend on what I planned to do with the machine. -- -Chuck