From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 20:08:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 463D816A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:08:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from anduin.net (anduin.net [212.12.46.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA3943D75 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:08:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ltning@anduin.net) Received: from mailnull by anduin.net with dspam-scanned (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CJdki-000PJK-9H for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:05:08 +0200 Received: from mailnull by anduin.net with spamassassin-scanned (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CJdkf-000PJ1-MV for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:05:08 +0200 Received: from c5100a234.sdsl.catch.no ([81.0.162.52] helo=[192.168.1.113]) by anduin.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CJdkc-000PIr-Oj; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:05:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: <000501c4b547$6a577b00$0300000a@transcon> References: <000501c4b547$6a577b00$0300000a@transcon> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <5F8020A8-2141-11D9-A8A9-000D9335BCEC@anduin.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Eirik_=D8verby?= Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:07:44 +0200 To: Communications Machine X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on anduin.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=7.5 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 cc: amd64@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Upgrade feasibility, to AMD64/5.x.x or to stay i386/4.9 on AMD64 hardware? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:08:30 -0000 Hoi there, I don't see any problems, except ..... On 18. Oct 2004, at 21:19, Communications Machine wrote: > Hey all, looking to upgrade a server used in a small business here, > looking > for opinions and advice about migrating to an AMD64 system, vs. using > i386 > box, also if it would not be just as feasible to use i386 distribution > on > AMD64 hardware simply for the speed? > > Here's what we've got now, and have been running for a few years > without > fail; just things getting a little slow to keep-up with things now: > > AMD K62 - 300mhz CPU > 768 Megs RAM > 60GB ATA-133 and 80GB ATA-133 Drive attached to Promise TX2 Controller > (no > raid) > > System serves as: > - mailserver (sendmail/pop3/spamd/mimedefang with custom filters) > - webserver ('standard' apache serving mostly static pages) > - application server (apache/mod_perl mostly, lot of custom apps) > - squid proxy server/gateway using authentication and custom > logging > - samba server for workgroup, not primary fileserver but used > quite a > bit > - MySQL server *** several databases nearing couple hundred megs > worth > of data, queries starting to take longer than ever before... > - FTP server, (combined with http/upload virtually hosted site), > operates as place for customers/vendors to drop/receive data - used > quite > frequently, but for mostly sub 1gb files > - many custom apps, mostly written in PERL, which process data via > cronjobs, etc. > > > Here's what we're proposing for the new hardware: > > AMD Athlon64 - 3200+ (Socket 754 - I know, but it's cheap) > MSI K8T-FSR (VIA Chipset) > Adaptec AAC-2410SA 4-Port S-ATA RAID Controller This one is gonna be tricky on you, I think. The driver used for most Adaptec RAID controllers (IDE and SCSI alike) isn't currently working on amd64 (in 64-bit mode, that is). I have repeatedly asked if anyone will step up to the task and fix that, as I have an Adaptec Zero-Channel RAID add-on-board for my dual opteron just collecting dust at the moment, but the general answer is 'no time'... Too bad. Then again, I have nothing but really REALLY bad experiences with Adaptec IDE RAID solutions, so perhaps you should choose differently there.. Most all the others are supported, and supported well afaik. /Eirik > (4) Seagate 200GB S-ATA Drives to be configured RAID 5 > 2048MB DDR400 Non-ECC RAM > DVD-ROM, floppy, etc... > > Just wondering if we should maintain i386/4.9 distribution and wait > for the > AMD64 platform to mature further into stability as the releases > progress... > or to jump on the FreeBSD 5.x.x bandwagon and go with a native AMD64 > platform; so long as we can run Apache/mod_perl + mysql, things should > be > all good... or not? > > Any advice, suggestions (hardware or software) would be greatly > appreciated, > please either CC the list and reply, or vice-versa as we are not > directly > subscribed to the mailing list for -questions, only for amd64 - > thank-you. > > -- > Nathan Vidican > itstaff@wmptl.com > Windsor Match Plate & Tool Ltd. > http://www.wmptl.com/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-amd64 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-amd64-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > - Love over Gold -