From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 26 23:17:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6DA16A46F; Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:17:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: from mail4out.barnet.com.au (mail4.barnet.com.au [202.83.178.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C33E13C4AE; Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:17:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: by mail4out.barnet.com.au (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5134437E0B4; Wed, 27 Jun 2007 09:17:15 +1000 (EST) X-Viruscan-Id: <46819E7B00006A0BED1CB5@BarNet> Received: from mail4auth.barnet.com.au (mail4.barnet.com.au [202.83.178.125]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mail4.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A55423264; Wed, 27 Jun 2007 09:17:15 +1000 (EST) Received: from k7.mavetju (k7.mavetju.org [10.251.1.18]) by mail4auth.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB8537E0B0; Wed, 27 Jun 2007 09:17:14 +1000 (EST) Received: by k7.mavetju (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 984E4186; Wed, 27 Jun 2007 09:17:14 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 09:17:14 +1000 From: Edwin Groothuis To: Christian Brueffer Message-ID: <20070626231714.GB1556@k7.mavetju> References: <200706251147.l5PBl4Ib026722@repoman.freebsd.org> <20070626195936.GA976@zaphod.nitro.dk> <20070626200957.GA1988@haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070626200957.GA1988@haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, doc-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-doc@FreeBSD.org, "Simon L. Nielsen" Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/share/sgml news.xml X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:17:16 -0000 On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 10:09:57PM +0200, Christian Brueffer wrote: > On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 09:59:37PM +0200, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: > > On 2007.06.25 11:47:03 +0000, Edwin Groothuis wrote: > > > edwin 2007-06-25 11:47:03 UTC > > > > > > FreeBSD doc repository (src,ports committer) > > > > > > Modified files: > > > share/sgml news.xml > > > Log: > > > Announce my src commit bit > > > > I raised this before, but do anyone really see any value in this kind > > of news entries? I mean, why would users care? It's marginally > > interesting for committers, but interested committers already read the > > access commits.. Recently (about a month ago), xorg 7.2 was imported in the ports framework. This was a very big change. Everybody was talking about it. On -ports, and a little bit on -questions. It didn't show up on the FreeBSD news column. And neither on the RSS feed. I doubt that anybody outside the -ports mailinglist knew about it, except when they were trying to upgrade a port and ran into strange error messages :-) After five days of waiting for somebody with authority (portmgr? flz@? A docs-commitor? Anybody but me who didn't even manage to get his machine up to date for a test run) to post it there, I realized it was never going to be posted on the frontpage and I submitted a news item. The fact that FreeBSD upgraded to Xorg 7.2 got its eyeballs, flz@ got his credits and people all over the world knew that FreeBSD wasn't dead yet. > > This is not specific to this particular commit, but all the upgrade > > privileges news entries. > > I concur. That's exactly the reason I didn't announce my src bit > addition back then. When I got the stock email from -core about my approval, it said "announce it". I thought "been there, done that.". I saw somebody else posting his upgrade, and thought "been there, will do it again.". Got some kuddos from old friends who don't use FreeBSD but saw my name on a website facilitating the FreeBSD RSS feed. The news items and RSS feed do work: We got eyeballs. I'll leave the descission about the policy with regarding to enhancement announces to others. Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.mavetju.org edwin@mavetju.org | Weblog: http://www.mavetju.org/weblog/