From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jan 26 12:49:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA23026 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 12:49:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.210.193]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA23016 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 12:49:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.33] by misery.sdf.com with smtp (Exim 1.59 #1) id 0voTme-0006VY-00; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 04:34:04 -0800 Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 04:34:04 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: Terry Lambert cc: garman@phs.k12.ar.us, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CMD640b ide controller bug workarounds? In-Reply-To: <199701261907.MAA02101@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 26 Jan 1997, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > So that FreeBSD will run on hardware as it comes from the manufacturer > > > so that people who want to run FreeBSD can be pure computer users > > > instead of a combination of computer user, petty cash drawer, and > > > hardware hacker? > > > > You're dreaming. As long as hw manufactures make crap, computer usage > > will never be "pure". Even the Linux solution requires the user to > > diagnose the problem as hw, and add the "hda=serialize" option. > > It's possible to diagnose the chipset and automatically invoke the > workaround. Linux has fallen down. > > See the test program on www.intel.com for the controller bug. I've been told by the user in question, that the ide check program from Intel hangs on his system. Not too useful. "Pure computer usage" will not be possible until a "pure computer" exists. As it stands, sw people need to keep "adapting" to new hw bugs. > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. Tom