From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 27 04:26:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408C716A4CF for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 04:26:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from TRANG.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A17C43D41 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 04:26:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by TRANG.nuxi.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5R4QZ4e045618; Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:26:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i5R4QYmX045617; Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:26:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:26:34 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Poul-Henning Kamp Message-ID: <20040627042634.GB45235@dragon.nuxi.com> Mail-Followup-To: David O'Brien , Poul-Henning Kamp , current@FreeBSD.org References: <20040626231221.GA11573@dragon.nuxi.com> <3949.1088292437@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3949.1088292437@critter.freebsd.dk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADSUP: ibcs2 and svr4 compat headed for history X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: current@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 04:26:56 -0000 On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 01:27:17AM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > Why do you think that a HEADSUP was sent to current@ David ? General readers of freebsd-current isn't our project management body. > Presumably you belive I did that to try to sneak this decision past > your highly sensitive nose, the bulk of the committers, our most > active users, the core team, the TRB, UN peace-keeping forces, and > Lloyds Register ? I've seen some core members admit they no longer read freebsd-current because of the high S-N ratio. So sending something to freebsd-current assuming all Core or TRB members will see it is in fallacy. > Or could it be, just by chance, that I recognized that nobody on > core (or the TRB) would have enough information to answer the very > simple question: "Is there a significant use of these bits which > we are currently unaware off ?", and therefore decided to poll a > larger audience ? I think you presume to know too much about what all the Core and TRB members know. I think you should be pushing this agenda (so publicly implying full authority to do this), only after consulting with one of Core/TRB of your intentions. > (If you answer this correctly David, you win a little yellow rubber > mat you can stomp on next time you get upset about somebody not > "following procedures") It is well known you prefer drive-by commits, ride roughshod over, and acting unilaterally. I don't think all of the project does. phkBSD is around the other corner, thanks. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org)