Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:56:04 +0100 From: "Michal Varga" <varga.michal@gmail.com> To: "Doug Barton" <dougb@freebsd.org> Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gnome-session 2.24 (upstream) mess Message-ID: <3f1fd1ea0901101256y126c7c69rea04e3222ffa8363@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4968FE90.6040807@FreeBSD.org> References: <3f1fd1ea0901101039j69b09b18s44650cbe3bbca45b@mail.gmail.com> <4968FE90.6040807@FreeBSD.org>
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On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org> wrote: > Michal Varga wrote: >> Hello guys, >> I noticed that Gnome 2.24 was commited today along with gnome-session >> 2.24, so I need to ask - how did FreeBSD Gnome team decide to deal >> with the recent session management ... > > FYI we don't use that kind of language on our lists. > > In any case it seems something like this should be in the pkg-message > so that users are aware. > > Doug > You're right, I apologize for the somewhat improper language, It's been just stuck in my head since I've been debugging this behaviour for a friend and came across the whole issue, then immediately started tearing my hair out (obviously, I'm a heavy session user too). The whole situation made quite a number of people angry, and not just because of missing "my windows won't pop back when i relog". With this, uhm, politely said, regression (at least on Ubuntu where I've been pointed to to check it), fully gnome-aware applications now simply crash when you log out of Gnome (take with a grain of salt - I didn't check if they are actually sig-terminated, or if they shut themselves semi-correctly when X server terminates, or anything deeper). But the outcome is that the next time you log back and restart your applications manually, you get a nice show of "It seems that Galeon crashed last time, It seems that Evolution crashed last time, poink, poink, poink..". Or if you have an application with unsaved changes or crunching some data, it is not able to prevent logout and it's closed (with a hammer) too. The whole situation makes one want to cry, some online discussions about it are a pretty nice evidence of that. Still you are right, I'll watch my language next time and prevent any similar slips. (And, Jeremy - I'm sorry I didn't take part in testing this particular release from MarcusCom, I've been doing it for years and somewhat grew too lazy over time.. At least you can be sure you will definitely have one tester back for 2.26 :) m.
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