From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 17 15:40:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A2FD16A4D7 for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 15:40:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msr11.hinet.net (msr11.hinet.net [168.95.4.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731E143D45 for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 15:40:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from y2kbug@ms25.hinet.net) Received: from sonic.utopia.com (61-227-219-199.dynamic.hinet.net [61.227.219.199]) by msr11.hinet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA00700 for ; Tue, 18 May 2004 06:40:38 +0800 (CST) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 06:38:55 +0800 From: Robert Storey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040518063855.62e20610.y2kbug@ms25.hinet.net> In-Reply-To: <006801c43bd4$49362fd0$6501a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> References: <006801c43bd4$49362fd0$6501a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.7 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: New work on installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: y2kbug@ms25.hinet.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 22:40:48 -0000 On Mon, 17 May 2004 01:00:37 -0500 wrote: > Has there been any new work on the installer or planned? If not, I would like > to help... What about graphical? If you're looking to improve FreeBSD's user-friendliness, more usefual than a GUI installer would be a few network setup tools. To get some idea what I'm talking about, take a look at Slackware's "netconfig" and "adsl-setup" tools. These aren't GUI, just ncurses scripts, but very easy to use. When I was a FBSD newbie, one of my most frustrating experiences was having to manually write and modify /etc/ppp/options and /etc/ppp/ppp.conf. I think a lot of newbies get to this point, spend a few frustrating days tearing their hair out, and then give up and go back to Redhat or SUSE. A user-friendly GUI or ncurses script for configuring the new PF firewall would no doubt win a few converts too. Take a look at Guarddog (a Linux tool for IP tables) to get some idea. Just my 2 cents. regards, Robert