From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 14 01:07:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6ED16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:07:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.des.no (flood.des.no [217.116.83.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7DD43F3F for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:07:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: by smtp.des.no (Pony Express, from userid 666) id 4E8F4530C; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:07:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from dwp.des.no (des.no [80.203.228.37]) by smtp.des.no (Pony Express) with ESMTP id B89B15308; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:07:05 +0100 (CET) Received: by dwp.des.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 6968933C65; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:07:05 +0100 (CET) To: Rahul Siddharthan References: <20031114002204.GA1035@online.fr> From: des@des.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?q?Sm=F8rgrav?=) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:07:05 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20031114002204.GA1035@online.fr> (Rahul Siddharthan's message of "Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:22:04 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.090024 (Oort Gnus v0.24) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on flood.des.no X-Spam-Level: ss X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK autolearn=no version=2.60 cc: chat@freebsd.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: The future of X? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:07:15 -0000 Rahul Siddharthan writes: > Well, I don't know about slow, but I like those blurry drop-shadows :-) Drop shadows on menus are wrong. The menu is attached to the menu bar, which is in the plane of the application window, so it cannot possibly be floating a quarter-inch in front of and paralell to the application window as the shadow suggests. Drop shadows on regular windows are hardly any better. First, it raises the question of what plane the mouse pointer moves in; either the mouse pointer should cast a shadow, or the system should allow me to control its position in the Z axis, allowing me to move it between overlapping windows, etc. Second, the screenshots show windows casting shadows of equal width on other windows despite differences in conceptual depth. If window A is a quarter-inch in front of window B, and window B is a quarter-inch in front of window C, there should be a discernible difference in the shadows window A cast on windows B and C, and areas in which both A and B cast a shadow on C should be darker than areas in which only one of them casts a shadow. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no