From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 08:28:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5FF16A4CE; Mon, 1 Mar 2004 08:28:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from srv01.sparkit.no (srv01.sparkit.no [193.69.116.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 897AA43D46; Mon, 1 Mar 2004 08:28:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ws ([193.69.114.88]) by srv01.sparkit.no (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i21GSSSD091089; Mon, 1 Mar 2004 17:28:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from eivind@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ws (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ws (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i21GRQmd050264; Mon, 1 Mar 2004 16:27:26 GMT (envelope-from eivind@ws) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by ws (8.12.9/8.12.10/Submit) id i21GRPWk050139; Mon, 1 Mar 2004 16:27:26 GMT (envelope-from eivind) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 16:26:24 +0000 From: Eivind Eklund To: "David O'Brien" Message-ID: <20040301162624.GE27008@FreeBSD.org> References: <200402040638.i146cVAi035977@repoman.freebsd.org> <20040229233524.GA48293@dragon.nuxi.com> <1078098236.62463.50.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20040301104026.GC27008@FreeBSD.org> <20040301115006.GA64348@xor.obsecurity.org> <20040301154440.GC71640@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040301154440.GC71640@dragon.nuxi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: cvs-ports@FreeBSD.org cc: ports-committers@FreeBSD.org cc: Joe Marcus Clarke cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Gettext issues (was Re: cvs commit: ports CHANGES) X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 16:28:35 -0000 On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 07:44:40AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 03:50:06AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > Talking of gettext: I've been toying with the idea of having WITHOUT_NLS > > > settable in sysinstall, or defaulting NLS to off. I believe most FreeBSD > > > users will want the english version, even if translations are available. > ... > > This is worth exploring further. I certainly do not expect to ever > > need on my system the features gettext provides, although it's likely > > that not all software can be easily weaned of the dependency. > > I personally would love this knob -- shoot I'd almost say it should be > the default. GNU autoconf (at least for the toolchain) supports a > --without-nls option. The knob is there for a number of ports (but much fewer than I had thought - I actually thought it was fairly universal): devel/bison/Makefile devel/gmake/Makefile ftp/wget/Makefile mail/mutt-devel/Makefile mail/mutt/Makefile net/darkstat/Makefile This has actually seemed to be enough to stop most of the problems I have with gettext (which shows you what kind of programs I run ;) I think we should try to have it become universal - getting rid of gettext is very useful for most of us. Eivind.