From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 6 13:36:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E3094182 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2014 13:36:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wp376.webpack.hosteurope.de (wp376.webpack.hosteurope.de [IPv6:2a01:488:42::50ed:8591]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C22615F9 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2014 13:36:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from xdsl-78-35-69-169.netcologne.de ([78.35.69.169] helo=dijkstra-old.cruwe.de); authenticated by wp376.webpack.hosteurope.de running ExIM with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) id 1WBP83-0008IG-5V; Thu, 06 Feb 2014 14:36:31 +0100 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 14:36:30 +0100 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Ports-Announce] Time to bid farewell to the old pkg_ tools Message-ID: <20140206143630.0338602f@dijkstra-old.cruwe.de> In-Reply-To: References: <201402052202.s15M2Lha059200@fire.js.berklix.net> <52F2C0C8.5010203@gmx.de> <52F32F7C.2030601@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de;cjr@cruwe.de;1391693793;62a4fe7b; X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 13:36:33 -0000 On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 23:26:18 -0800 Kevin Oberman wrote: > If you use poudriere, you can roll your own packages with custom > options and maintain things pretty reasonably, but for a single > system (or two), this is a bit of overkill. As things stand, this is > a real pain to use customized ports and packages from the standard > FreeBSD distributions. I'm waiting with great excitement for this to > appear, though I have no idea if it is near or far. I really don't think so. Even with a single machine, poudriere literally saved my a.. pretty bottom several times breaking on implicit dependencies which would have popped up ages later with nasty and difficult to trace problems/errors. I think anybody who compiles from ports should _really_ use poudriere. I even think it should be strongly suggested in the handbook. (I'd be willing to write that up for that matter.) -- Christopher TZ: GMT + 1h GnuPG/GPG: 0xE8DE2C14 FreeBSD 9.2-STABLE #1 r256184: Thu Oct 10 19:12:54 CEST 2013 cjr@dijkstra.cruwe.de:/usr/obj/usr/home/cjr/media/src/freebsd/base/stable/9/sys/GEN_WDTRACE Punctuation matters: "Lets eat Grandma." or "Lets eat, Grandma." - Punctuation saves lives. "A panda eats shoots and leaves." or "A panda eats, shoots, and leaves." - Punctuation teaches proper biology. "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." (RFC 1925)