From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Sun May 20 02:54:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9456EEEF666 for ; Sun, 20 May 2018 02:54:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pfg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sonic308-10.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (sonic308-10.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.68.34]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0832B6B266 for ; Sun, 20 May 2018 02:54:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pfg@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1526784868; bh=KkcmVYbRCEW6jUyFc9I7NnxneLtdwFwKnjALtCB9ZBo=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=pijrv/BKPSejqdEi8RFlEvGkQXQx0Y78l+J0+XAMrcvJNzF8ckGnreF2Qg4uTuJNkdZAnfFmp/av5rXRTlVNphXntC8EHDQ4+3pEYpclOg3bH5CpkI1Da7M9yd4YqO2YupYC/Oi6OY7C6+MXNhWgnwzQYrCCWR6qtD+EXkCYnxm3iXVgiXz0KlRgBGTYG6g8t5MNqipoP5CuWOA/uOI8NJCSvCPh8CeI6g6xL6Ub26TX3BDFITv4HQwcpVaWE/CXIopaWTXxWzvJL7WTyhG4XtjnEvYmeYg4xHx99RwQ58ahg4Tw/Hr4djPAh0YqyMx/1LVEuWtfslCVpoiWGn6lFQ== X-YMail-OSG: m4goB5cVM1kzm1DJf0bKWx_AjGst_Aod9mFwxynTVwrwIdR3B6bvfmWHdoL95HS bJj0O1n2qICdUdn.RH_OZSuPSRFf6Rm1upHd5u_KVHkB7L7DUY010FellsUWgmpeeBW.yATN4coW wXnaTuLSYEFcSUTSx9kejsf8MNTV5Fkj4A5AU1_grG6TdVKCi4dWppS7D_82qfMRtM9rfZsSWYgr 9Ry.yBfZJxTEm0eKy1aFi8s3CldBuxWW4hrMrvjlA6r2dol.r10c5cewQCIJZyw4RtygNarkZJfm EMFimlh3NidjAuLQiBcz7idT9RDrQx13VFTUI8YCv1020cTF6pulIRVMMcoxtiPHQKvHl5rFWKDr KlENHsMUoLHj58pBcvP12GvXhvv9X2h6TtO6KamHorB_ct1ZwjVYYSZHjPSHV3ZpsjA2EB21f7ry fffWel1t7HatI29ypzupIeG9yQcwp3.qtVAwQnM.Q7Mq35dZ13uAHnnhgoUfR4UddTJbgFaD72oC NCpGnZ7oW_6lT6ygf37ccenqFc9CQK8zboWhX73dg5fhkaWUgIP9A96I.bo2kcT7tTVsyD7tWljH Q30a4caNwgM37w2QiNO.oh5Xwxnzzu.yyMfCzMlLeX7TqXcbuInVAWE8UMFIjBSCxoZ4- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic308.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sun, 20 May 2018 02:54:28 +0000 Received: from 181.52.72.201 (EHLO [192.168.0.6]) ([181.52.72.201]) by smtp430.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID f4c20a38dcb2a74de3be20b26735b771; Sun, 20 May 2018 02:54:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: svn commit: r333880 - head/sys/kern To: Warner Losh Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , "Rodney W. Grimes" , Warner Losh , src-committers , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org References: <201805191729.w4JHTvOo032116@repo.freebsd.org> <201805191945.w4JJjMlk017155@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> <6814.1526761972@critter.freebsd.dk> <637a69d0-fbc9-552b-49fd-9d029eb592f4@FreeBSD.org> From: Pedro Giffuni Organization: FreeBSD Project Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 21:54:25 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.26 X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 02:54:35 -0000 On 19/05/2018 21:43, Warner Losh wrote: > > > On Sat, May 19, 2018, 8:40 PM Pedro Giffuni > wrote: > > > On 19/05/2018 16:02, Warner Losh wrote: >> >> >> On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 2:32 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp >> > wrote: >> >> -------- >> In message >> > > >> , Warner Losh writes: >> >> >> > Log: >> >> >   Restore the all rights reserved language. >> >> "All Rights Reserved" is boilerplate from the old "Buenos Aires" >> copyright convention, (a purely N+S American affair) and it lost >> all meaning and relevance for UCB when USA ratified the Berne >> Convention 60 years ago. >> >> >> The US ratified the Berne Convention in 1989, which falls in the >> middle of the 4.x BSD releases... Relevant for 4.3, but not 4.4. >> >> The final Buenos Aires signatory joined Berne a couple of decades >> ago, rendering the convention null and void, and therefore this >> boilerplate has no meaning or relevance for anybody. >> >> >> Right, I get that. However, someone removed it. Even though it's >> useless at this point, I don't believe we can remove it. >> > For the record, and with the usual disclaimer that I am *not* a > lawyer ... > > I attended a talk from a lawyer from Google that explained adding > the "All Rights Reserved" line didn't mean what it intended to > mean previously (or much at all) but that removing it was intended > as having a meaning. In sum, and while I didn't completely grasp > the issue is not clear all lawyers would agree on removing the line. > > For old code it is what is, but perhaps the effort should be done > for new code, starting here: > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/pref-license.html > > > > Looks like i missed one. I'll fix it. > While updating documentation, the SPDX guys also point to an outdated version: https://spdx.org/licenses/BSD-2-Clause-FreeBSD.html https://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html  With the additional mistake that they added the Documentation Project disclaimer to the license:  "The views and conclusions contained in the software and documentation are those of the authors and should not be interpreted as representing official policies, either expressed or implied, of the FreeBSD Project." Cheers, Pedro.