From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 27 22:51:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91BCD123 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 22:51:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aurfalien@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-x235.google.com (mail-ob0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5719022A3 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 22:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f181.google.com with SMTP id wp4so2846938obc.26 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 15:51:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=kTjWtBR8ULVy9o708XZAOxt50uVvi8k8gAxUsSv/sFU=; b=M+mt1BXaguN7ab6pB8R9Ndvjq16hfzgfdoez9e2UhiEXKByBIhPTuySJcsl1OymIJ2 kOmsdGlWHsy7yLYEHKaXuoljowESk/A6ntuJMrTog5bp9VDV4iBWZ3CzUcreze/vD/9G Pqy4Fd2b8um/bQYtK1c64Sjc3Jt1HwqY88HdcjjljcUt7wHFhe1/B3xTaAuLA6ofwRNU k0hTv98aMM7c3EgfahEgHXQ5QiYXgtPpV4JYyJKK1GoEezdAre4tgJ2vHILlJ2L1HA3H fUCBe7BRIpKE9d0kF9J2VGhQZDj5z1qd6TkIvor0Xj1VY+bOru0JoKzIPGHA5VyGXVdf IR1w== X-Received: by 10.182.73.231 with SMTP id o7mr12416555obv.34.1382914310225; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 15:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.74] (75-63-29-182.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. [75.63.29.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id wd7sm22335935obc.3.2013.10.27.15.51.48 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 27 Oct 2013 15:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: FreeNAS vs. FreeBSD? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) From: aurfalien In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 15:51:47 -0700 Message-Id: <2660B128-75E7-40C0-93DB-1BD2FD28B17C@gmail.com> References: <44326394-E318-41B2-B85D-EA17E50B9230@gmail.com> To: C. P. Ghost X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 22:51:51 -0000 On Oct 27, 2013, at 10:25 AM, C. P. Ghost wrote: > On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 5:13 PM, aurfalien = wrote: > I've tested with and w/o swap on a ZFS data set and have seen no = degradation in ZFS performance. >=20 > That's interesting. Are you using a box with AES-NI instructions or = just > plain ZFS (without encryption)? No encrypt on my ZFS data partitions but FreeNAS encrypts the swap. In terms of the CPU, I'm using the intel E5 2400 class hexacore proc. Unsure if its AES-NI capable or not. I suppose that I could look :) > That's one of the reasons I'm still undecided. With FreeBSD, I could = set up > swap on a dedicated slice/mirror without going through ZFS/GELI; which > is important on older CPUs that don't have AES-NI instructions. I'm = quite > afraid of the performance hit if swap is on ZFS/GELI. >=20 > Any changes made can be backed up to a file and restored on a fresh = install etc... which is simply either the ability to resort to defaults = and reboot or a fresh USB key. >=20 > That's a very useful feature indeed. I just booted a server with a USB > key containing the FreeNAS image, and it works like a charm. Maybe > something similar would be possible with plain vanilla FreeBSD; will > have to investigate. > =20 > So its more then just a GUI. >=20 > Indeed. > =20 > However they do not have a well defined or a defined for that matter, = roadmap. >=20 > Yup, that's the other concern I have with FreeNAS. >=20 > The most important question would be: would FreeNAS ZFS/GELI volumes > be importable into a regular FreeBSD system, should I decide to switch = back > to FreeBSD (e.g. if FreeNAS ceases to be supported/updated sometimes)? > I suppose yes, provided the keys are properly backed up, but without = testing, > I wouldn't bet the farm on it. That would be a good test if you have time. I assume yes but assume has a funny word in it :) - aurf=