From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 12 09:49:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FBF3106564A for ; Tue, 12 May 2009 09:49:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADDFD8FC12 for ; Tue, 12 May 2009 09:49:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c122-106-216-167.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.216.167]) by mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n4C9nHdr007747 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 12 May 2009 19:49:19 +1000 X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4C9nHn8041899; Tue, 12 May 2009 19:49:17 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n4C9nGJv041898; Tue, 12 May 2009 19:49:16 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 19:49:16 +1000 From: peterjeremy@optushome.com.au To: Lothar Scholz Message-ID: <20090512094916.GA41857@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <976698487.20090509182307@scriptolutions.com> <123863765.20090509203610@scriptolutions.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <123863765.20090509203610@scriptolutions.com> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re[2]: Are named posix semaphores not implemented? X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 09:49:24 -0000 --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2009-May-09 20:36:10 +0200, Lothar Scholz wr= ote: >I must say that i really don't like this start off with >anything disabled. OTOH, people run FreeBSD because they don't want a default configuration that is bloated by lots of "features" that they will never use and (in some cases) reduce system performance. > They will never get a good desktop os >if the user can't run simple programs without the need to >learn about kernel modules. This depends on your definition of "simple". I've been running FreeBSD for over 10 years and I don't think I've ever needed sem(4). >Well this is the wrong list to discuss this anyway. It might be relevant if you want to propose the default inclusion of sem(4) into GENERIC (though I'm not sure if PC-BSD is a FreeBSD GENERIC kernel or one that has been adapted for PC-BSD). --=20 Peter Jeremy --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkoJRhwACgkQ/opHv/APuIe9FQCfUV29OTMaro3N1oIMneU66LR2 SVwAnRaUynvm1C0RPj4uIvglDAugoXCh =SyLO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l--