From owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 15:49:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3510216A400; Sun, 14 May 2006 15:49:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnn@neville-neil.com) Received: from mrout1.yahoo.com (mrout1.yahoo.com [216.145.54.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA1A743D48; Sun, 14 May 2006 15:49:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnn@neville-neil.com) Received: from minion.lan.neville-neil.com (proxy8.corp.yahoo.com [216.145.48.13]) by mrout1.yahoo.com (8.13.6/8.13.4/y.out) with ESMTP id k4EFmffI085494; Sun, 14 May 2006 08:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 11:48:40 -0400 Message-ID: From: gnn@FreeBSD.org To: Daniel Eischen In-Reply-To: References: <20060513103640.GL69354@cicely12.cicely.de> <20060513085933.R986@odysseus.silby.com> <20060513151305.GP69354@cicely12.cicely.de> <20060513.115539.74661598.imp@bsdimp.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Shij=F2?=) APEL/10.6 Emacs/22.0.50 (i386-apple-darwin8.5.1) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.org, gallatin@cs.duke.edu, jhb@FreeBSD.org, silby@silby.com, ticso@cicely12.cicely.de, wb@freebie.xs4all.nl, ticso@cicely.de Subject: Eclipse for Embedded FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-small@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 15:49:30 -0000 At Sun, 14 May 2006 11:02:17 -0400 (EDT), Daniel Eischen wrote: > > On Sat, 13 May 2006, Warner Losh wrote: > > >>>> Currently I have an ARM board in development which I intended to use > >>>> FreeBSD on, but now I'm afraid that FreeBSD/ARM could die as well in a > >>>> few years forcing me to change to NetBSD, but then why start with > >>>> FreeBSD at all? > > > > I can tell you that my company has committed to an ARM design. Unless > > there something really bad that we've not hit, we'll be supporting it > > for at least 10 years in the field. I'm planning on adding support > > for additional designs. Jean-Mark is adding support for Cirrus Logic > > ARM-9 boards (at least one anyway). Benno Rice is adding support for > > the gumsticks. Other folks at BSDCan have suggested that they will be > > doing their own devices in the near future, but have asked me to keep > > their names and projects under my hat. I'll likely do at least one > > more arm board. There's much interest in taking FreeBSD/arm and > > FreeBSD/i386 (and other archs when they are ready) to the next level > > of embedding. > > And what is the next level of embedding? An easily configured > GUI or Eclipse plugin thingy that lets you configure and build > your target, and also shows your your memory requirements for > each selected component? And will it have a VME bus driver? > Please give us another alternative to vxWorks :-) Would you prefer Linux or CE then? ;-) And, more seriously, it very much depends on those who work on it. Clearly our current configuration systems (text files) are not going to be useful to the majority of people who wish to configure an OS vs. those who are going to hack on the core of it. So, if you have a suggestion we'd love to hear it. BTW I moved this off of src to small because that's where this question actually belongs and where we'll be discussing such things. Later, George