From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 17 14:41:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA10078 for current-outgoing; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 14:41:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA10073 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 14:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA19726; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 14:32:29 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199706172132.OAA19726@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Need to rebuild libkvm,ps,w To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de-noreply Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 14:32:29 -0700 (MST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19970617080302.DA29718@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Jun 17, 97 08:03:02 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Actually, isn't it really the memory image arguments to ps/w/et. al. > > that cause the problem? We could go to /proc tomorrow if /proc > > were mandatory ... > > /proc _is_ mandatory. ps(1) only displays half the information > without it. This was a "hidden" jab at the utility of the commands in a crash situation (/proc for the crashed system is a procedural interface, and therefore unavailable). I should probably have ben more forthright, but people seem to get upset when I call something crap. 8-) Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.