From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 25 18:53:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66F6C16A4CE; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:53:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from voodoo.oberon.net (voodoo.oberon.net [212.118.165.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027EC43D55; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:53:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krion@voodoo.oberon.net) Received: from krion by voodoo.oberon.net with local (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DQ8iL-0007bh-1g; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:53:49 +0200 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:53:49 +0200 From: Kirill Ponomarew To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20050425185349.GD25681@voodoo.oberon.net> References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050424210422.03d22990@64.7.153.2> <20050425014453.GA59981@xor.obsecurity.org> <426C6B1D.3040704@elischer.org> <20050425061459.GA33247@xor.obsecurity.org> <20050425062106.GB91852@voodoo.oberon.net> <426CF3DE.4000409@samsco.org> <20050425160146.4795fe1b.flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org> <426CF91A.8060907@samsco.org> <20050425144259.GL91852@voodoo.oberon.net> <20050425182033.GC40370@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050425182033.GC40370@xor.obsecurity.org> X-NCC-Regid: de.oberon X-NIC-HDL: KP869-RIPE cc: julian@elischer.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: current@freebsd.org cc: mike@sentex.net Subject: Re: GCC 4.0 [Re: FreeBSD 6 is coming too fast] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:53:50 -0000 On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 11:20:33AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 04:43:00PM +0200, Kirill Ponomarew wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 08:05:14AM -0600, Scott Long wrote: > > > Well, I'd caution against jumping into GCC 4.0 just because of the > > > claims of 25% speed improvement. That's about the single worst reason > > > to do it. But if you're interested in moving the technology forward, > > > I'd happily encourage you. The changed language constructs are the big > > > problem (extern struct foo bar[]; is no longer valid) since you not only > > > need to sweep the FreeBSD tree for them, you also need to sweep the > > > ports tree. I have mixed feeling on the value of GCC making sloppy > > > language extentions available for years and then suddenly revoking them, > > > and I know others that have been affected by 4.0 aren't terribly happy > > > either. > > > > Well. if we're going to import it, it should be tested on pointyhat > > first. IIRC Kris already run tests for some pre 4.0 versions. > > No, only for 3.4.4, which is going to be imported after I finish > testing the latest patchset from kan. Erm, is 3.4.4 already released, I couldn't find it on their page: http://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/releases.html -Kirill