From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Dec 16 14:45:13 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ACC4C82AFD for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 14:45:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.contact@marino.st) Received: from shepard.synsport.com (mail.synsport.com [208.69.230.148]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39A5A1D8D for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 14:45:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.contact@marino.st) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ip72-204-83-236.fv.ks.cox.net [72.204.83.236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by shepard.synsport.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F81A43C42; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 08:44:02 -0600 (CST) From: John Marino Reply-To: John Marino To: FreeBSD Mailing List , tingox@gmail.com Subject: The ports collection has some serious issues Message-ID: <192c99ca-ed3b-44da-633a-99629fdcea70@marino.st> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 08:45:09 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 161216-0, 12/16/2016), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 14:45:13 -0000 > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 6:42 AM, Peter Jeremy wrote: >> On 2016-Dec-15 19:31:22 +0100, list-freebsd-ports at jyborn.se wrote: >> Interestingly, the most vocal proponent of deleting portmaster and >> portupgrade is the author/maintainer of synch. It's not interesting at all. Synth was in a large part created because people were irrationally sticking with portmaster and more frighteningly gaining new users. > I won't say "never". But I feel that both package builders (poudriere, > synth) need some more time to shake out more issues / bugs and get > into a better shape first. This isn't based on any specific problems > or bugs, more a "felleing2 based on people's feedback in the forums > and on mailing lists. I insist that you base this on "specific problems". Speaking for Synth, there are no known bugs in it. There are no pending issues with existing features. It is updated frequently. AFAIK poudriere is updated regularly as well. The above is an accusation that you absolutely must back up with fact because it's basically defamation. > If I was interested in package builders, I would spend some time > helping to test them. Since my interests related to FreeBSD is on > other things / tools / whatever, I spend my "FreeBSD time" on those > other things instead. DragonFly has switched to Synth from poudriere as it's primary package builder. That means it builds entire repositories (25,000 packages) biweekly on multiple servers. It's highly used which serves as continuous testing. I also use it on FreeBSD to test updates to ports. In fact, anyone that updates ports should use either poudriere testport or synth test. (Based on evidence, it's clear that some people whom I won't name publicly never use the QA checks before committing significant changes but that's getting sidetracked). The point is that these tools are in great shape and to imply otherwise needs proof. It's portmaster that's not receiving updates. John --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus