From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Thu Apr 27 17:49:50 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC83D53FAF; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 17:49:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@fastmail.net) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6AAAE1E2; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 17:49:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@fastmail.net) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159E52069B; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 13:49:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 27 Apr 2017 13:49:49 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.net; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=f0mAqYdQ7gmbLxsziT kreNqjOacuzixGnjN7uYnStIs=; b=FxCiuq3tzrnZbqNkHVXmxJbE2ev4LoODlh wyu3RLu6JGvHpbSfsYs8pUqM+CWfgdBbzuzsevMbB3iO/v6/hQgjoXo2OKlJJDzj e3FpUTnw+t2LKKMcEgjJuUDTHcOd4K3KnIDl+dhIS7WVxnUQLllZVW75XhgK8hdM mJo39HLkd3e2XeNA83cpKdDQeXDeVG4Vmg1j6xmpmvUsPJBvdq0cDKBQe+TcJ+bX nBPn79LCxHwvYizIjjUQvKM/jHkPGjQOIdDEgBcYjBWUZR0AY8Mz9RowLktZEjFm QIi0bJJ5PgY08HGD1lGrDhvzCznuSsHyxvWIFKzfx8jD8ixTnkDA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s= fm1; bh=f0mAqYdQ7gmbLxsziTkreNqjOacuzixGnjN7uYnStIs=; b=TAGRZf+6 f4UZAMItC0E+3CXgBbsHpColntpZcTdh+eNEScN7BDTWRfMU93Jn3vWou7Ii3FlO d8JjQGMfece/QKZUyx3jJcAh09UrccfqFO/5nIVK7Brdpdg4/4x89zRvldI/XcHA eLC+drzNcPqJVNDMmn99OjF10nCW5yymj9hBDy6nndX0y3kkiDDG91LhaYeqALh4 GQv5R7is4EtYxPnJqYvbOaLJrdLkRKAwiY0S5q0DxT54MGyh/+c4qoNBZzISPL40 b2LZH2q/BZYk3Sw273xHZNCsdjlFF3cLOfIQov8hfV0D0bDuBYFTe2T3PypXkWoD QN1tFx7xvS/Qrg== X-ME-Sender: X-Sasl-enc: Ha5UDBEs8qjzfiMKyG/H/1lFZ70hfelCx3/crI4K3B71 1493315388 Received: from [192.168.1.88] (cpc96954-walt26-2-0-cust843.13-2.cable.virginm.net [82.31.91.76]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6E3727E320; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 13:49:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: svn commit: r317383 - in head: . etc/mtree include lib/libc/net rescue/rescue sbin sbin/atm sbin/atm/atmconfig share/man/man4 sys/boot/forth sys/conf sys/dev/en sys/dev/fatm sys/dev/hatm sys/dev/pa... To: Brooks Davis , src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org References: <201704242121.v3OLLoR2082346@repo.freebsd.org> <694497a7-39cd-a648-7e2e-4a6b5f51955e@fastmail.net> From: Bruce Simpson Message-ID: <6c42d4e5-1b34-2f56-1a31-af12a19be8cd@fastmail.net> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 18:49:47 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <694497a7-39cd-a648-7e2e-4a6b5f51955e@fastmail.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 17:49:50 -0000 On 27/04/17 18:44, Bruce Simpson wrote: > Hopefully, with packet mode DSL, none of this should be needed again. > JFYI I'm referring to ye olde Packet Transfer Mode (PTM) DSL, TR-009... which dispenses with the need for ATM framing on DSL circuits. Some US ISPs have been observed doing this in the wild. DSL isn't going away any time soon, though -- many of us still use it as a backup circuit for other things (vs Metro Ethernet, G.FAST, DOCSIS etc.)