From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 19 14:19:08 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C4E71069A72 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 14:19:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4D3977F82 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 14:19:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.99.237]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue005 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0Lo5Nc-1gK6QY0ZT6-00fybV; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 16:13:18 +0200 Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 16:13:17 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Victor Sudakov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The recommended LaTeX port? Message-Id: <20180819161317.9bfdac7f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20180819134150.GA18805@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20180819134150.GA18805@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:OFe7/nEtlSok1oaJpZJ6YYgf1zbbmsKEeqKHqFHSJOqTRV/x47E Dy0WnMTugJhv7gACZ0uWkKt9vtjPNY+T+TwOYAmVf9tm3gG2UBnUadKoHHY1PpTN2jfjYDh qYqrZBOcUI9+xFh/xu78jA90/D5WvBp1IaD1VVDJazw77Klbzv1xzvXyR2CS7XQD6d3MhHB wL++qLWOQFD3IEaUggL9g== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:z2OkPznZiiM=:0J03C1H/HRO7uHfnUKwGuP lJQI7XN/5rqSOlVTH1KhV5WTNHjccKjPOCO7xEh9EyFbEBCLZ3mDNB/EVzheIl37aGIifpMrT Xh+OHTgc2FOZt4ZjSBtrk7EZ0hLAHnk1I74ytampCAPABcXysupC+f3UInHOw5++uk1f36cn3 TTCGv58l/2X2oQJQ0F44cLZ/7HBsI5i3gTLqgO0v5RAA7KeNM5oAmOTzYnBJum+8nsWn0tObk Adm3HuoHUKYBLTWwF1Xkpb5IYVbkW7Ete1UZuW4sHnxKHiDyUGD3BbmzT+ya0MjbB56fbPKz+ T8+VPYJ80Dl21XfpzdedVv1ZB9zx+vGUT9zxG7LzIyv/Xkz2lRi/u0LCAfvIUVTBeX82e9Csg i+zF2k6FR9nJbezD0hCAwbtm1lUYc7BsFfEqTEinzUVu0u8K3EUhSNwsdH/FaJel12yk6n9oN xeXFVWVoTFfMU9qlUcQzgmdnmTbyDszJo6Osob8ijGqTf92XVrdPP8FACZ7wWplBdvwjZ8M6N jOeA4S7FeEFTWGoAIzwtD1BY6gUr/Pn6IvdVihHan34Um3DgK6EAwfk34PaRwQI9Jcd/3d2lg idSZYtVFgo9VWMPfWcjDCmAjMm2sXRNCQD/8EGYXj0KNSe8C1mZWYHrro4O2Y6Feyr3tyKxXy FwoWeSLKq404gz2eLmWndWv49QBenwaXYGNMHfn6gC9KYu/SaLFA9E1wiESL24fil2hECwIIn 0EyNYV/ZAxHaJg8/ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 14:19:08 -0000 On Sun, 19 Aug 2018 20:41:50 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > Which is *the* \LaTeX distribution for FreeBSD currently? > > I remember last time I needed \LaTex around a dozen years ago, I used > the teTeX port, but cannot find it now. This is currect, teTeX has been discontinued. The consensus is to use TeXlive which is in FreeBSD ports, but is offered for many other platforms, too. > Cyrillic support is crucial, direct output to PDF is very desirable, > dependency on GUI libs and tools is not desirable. With TeXlive, you have the same tools (and more packages) as teTeX, so the switch should be possible without problems. For cyrillic text, only used occassionally, I use \usepackage[OT2,T1]{fontenc} \newcommand{\textcyr}[1]{{\donothyphenate\fontencoding{OT2}\selectfont #1}} and then \textcyr{USTANOVKA ChASTOTY PEREDATChIKA} or \textcyr{OSVEShchENIE} The "replacements" like Kh, Ch, S and Z are of course quite idiotic, but what else do you expect when EN-US becomes the master of all the languages... ;-) Additionally, it _should_ be possible to use UTF-8 input sources with cyrillic letters directly, using \usepackage[utf8x]{inputenc} and then using the cyrillic letters directly (as 2-byte "characters"). > (in a whisper) please also recommend a \LaTeX distibution for > Windows... TeXlive also replaces MiKTeX, the common "Windows" LaTeX version. It even has an installer "wizard"... :-) On Sun, 19 Aug 2018 20:53:46 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > I forgot to mention that I've tried a couple of online editors like > https://www.sharelatex.com/ but they all lacked Cyrillic support > miserably (Cyrillic characters either did not show in the compiled > output, or showed as mojibake). Just use a normal editor inside a terminal that can input and display cyrillic letters. Even ye olde xterm can do it. Make sure you set your environment variables correctly, i. e., en_US.UTF-8. I have no idea if LyX, the WYSIWYG variant for LaTeX, is still available. Personally, I prefer YAFIYGI because it works. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...